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Monday, April 11, 2005

Torture inc.

Counterpunch's Jeffrey St. Clair reports on the Bush administration's role in the clandestine "rendition" of suspected terrorists around the world. The corporate community is implicated. Who is behind the Gulfstream V jet?


Anonymous Craig UK said...

Well it just has to be the Jews, doesn't it? They were responsible for the death of Elvis Presley and the disappearance of Shergar, you know. And they probably stole the election for George Bush (despite most of them voting Democrat). Reality based people like you and Fisk have known this all along.

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:21:00 am  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

Antony, it really isn't a good idea to refer to Counterpunch as though they are people worthy of paying attention to.

They seem to have a recurrent problem with the Hebrew folk, you see, and make very little attempt to veil it behind all the usual, more appropriate obfuscations ("anti-Zionist, anti-Israel... etc).

Don't muddy your site with their sort.

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 7:46:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Very comfortable with the Counterpunch 'sort', thanks for caring. Anti-Zionist may be completely unthinkable in most Western thought, but I'm happy to be one myself.

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:44:00 am  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

But it strikes me as such a trivial thing to oppose. Israel isn't even the size of Victoria, and their blood-enemies possess more than a dozen far larger nations, from the west coast of Africa, to Indonesia.

Surely the Israelis can be afforded their little scrap of land without Muslims claiming that too?

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:32:00 pm  
Anonymous piginzen said...

Michael Jericho, I don't understand the purpose of your post. You obviously have an issue with Counterpunch, but you don't address the article that Antony linked to. I am interested in your thoughts on the article rather than a blanket slating of the publication.
Do you believe the article to be false? Do you believe the USA involves itself in the "rendition" process? If so, do you believe that the "rendition" process meets with international law, or should be exempt from international law? What moral compass do we use to compare ourselves to the declared enemies of the state. If we only torture 500 people or only kill 10,000 innocents does that make all okay?
At what point do we say enough.

I am also confused by your allegations of Counterpunch having "a recurrent problem with Hebrew folk". Now I must admit I don't read Counterpunch religiously, however I don't think it is stretching the point too far to suggest that being opposed to the Govt of Israel is not the same as being anti semetic.If you believe it is, the entire Israeli opposition is anti semetic.
As I said, I don't read Counterpunch regularly, and if you have any examples where they have displayed an anti semetic, rather than an anti govt bias, I will be more than happy to read them.

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:41:00 pm  

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