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Name: Antony Loewenstein
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posted by Antony Loewenstein at 5/26/2005 01:47:00 pm
Gosh, Ant, if there were a group of people who were blowing themselves up in the bars of Sydney, what would you do to the people responsible, whose preachers preach in support of it, who celebrate everytime innocent people are killed, who handed out candy on 9/11?What a bloody double-standard. Palestinians complaining about their 'cultural heritage' being wrecked by the big bad Jews, and yet when the Israelis pulled out of Nablus in 2000, what was the first thing these peaceful, tolerant, oppressed folk did? Trash Joseph's Tomb and burn Jewish holy books.(I notice 17 people weren't killed in riots after that particular act of desecration...)
Why am I not surprised? Ignore the facts, the brutality and excessiveness. How much longer will people like you, Anon, ignore the reality of Israeli occupation? I know it doesnt help that the victims are Palestinians, those dirty, violent, untrustworthy Arabs, in your view, and let me just guess how you'd react if the occupied were Jews or Americans or Australians?
Oh, puh-leeze, when are you going to grow up and drop this undergraduate seminar room oppressor-victim pose? You and I know that if Israel were to back down and unilaterally disarm, it would exist for about the next hour and a half. But you ignore the fact these poor Palestinians you're always on about (and if they're so poor, how come Arafat died with hundreds of millions in Swiss bank accounts) are home to a highly dysfunctional culture fed on post-modern grievance politics and medieval Koranic theology that tells them (with the help of other Arab states, which support this sort of thing to keep the heat off their own regimes) that "From the Jordan to the Sea, Palestine Will Be Free"And talk about ignoring the question, what about the Tomb of Joseph?(And if you don't believe me that Islamic culture broadly is truly disfunctional, just check out how the mullahs are responsible for an increase in polio across the Third World).
Once again, quoting Daniel Pipes and once again, your views posit you within the extremist vein. Western culture is good, Islamic culture is good. Jesus, no wonder you probably love Bush and his 'you're either with us or against us' bollocks...Shame the world is a little more complex than that, but why wonder, hey? I need to mature and realise how dysfunctional the Palestinians are. Show me the way, I need help. Really. Writing this book has taught me that bigots like you will always exist, popping up now and then to make me realise how shaming Western voices are in much of the world. The non-Western parts. ie. the majority.
Where did I quote Pipes? Show me...Here's the thing you can't figure out, is how does a hypertolerant pro-diversity lefty square the circle with a culture that has "other" status but also is about as retrograde as one can get regarding cherished Western freedoms, women's rights, sexual liberty, personal conduct, etc? I know y'all believe the personal is political, but the sharia takes this to a whole new level...
Referring to Pipes is bad enough...Sharia? WTF? Sunshine, the vast majority of Palestinian culture is not aligned to Hamas or any other fundamentalist dogma. Some are, most are not. Indeed, Fatah has always been secular. Sorry to ruin the illusion that Palestinians are not just like all other Muslims, in your view, crazy, mad and violent...
I agree totally with Anonymous.These Palestinians, wrong culture, wrong religion, wrong colour, and definitely in the wrong location. Excessive birth rates.They decline to be happy with the ghetto, with stigmatisation, with the control on movement, education, employment, which is all that they deserve as a lesser race. What do you say? The Final Solution?ej
What's so 'good' about Islamic culture? Name one Islamic Republic you would like to live in that enjoys 1/10th the freedoms, lifestyle, economy, etc, of a country like Australia. Curious to know what you think of putting Orianna Falacci on trial for blasphemy in Italy as well.
anon -> united arab emirates and the sultanate of brunei. The bottom line is that the pro-palestinians will have to one day admit that there's something seriously wrong with palestinian culture and it cant be blamed on occupation. And while the palestinians are this way there will never be peace. Its not racism, we used to think the same about japs and germans. All we need is time and a strong US army and all our problems will be gone in a couple of decades. Ponder that.
Ponder that?Give me a second.Ok, pondered.You're wrong, deluded, ignorant and a bigot.Shall I continue?Any chance you've actually spent time in Palestine and, perish the thought, actually met Palestinians?No, didn't think so...
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