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Saturday, July 16, 2005

Blogger news

Iraqi blogger Khalid Jarrar has been detained by the Iraqi police, according to reliable sources. Read the announcement for more information.
And US soldiers in Iraq now have to register with authorities if they want to maintain a blog. Clearly dissidents are no longer welcome. These voices certainly provide interesting perspectives.
UPDATE: I'm in Melbourne for the weekend, so posting will be light. Also, I've switched off anonymous postings on comments. Too much abuse and trouble, frankly. You now must be a registered user. Hope you readers understand (and a few readers suggested this, so...)


Blogger Iqbal Khaldun said...

It's for the best mate. What you were getting wasn't anything constructive anyway. It's hard when you honestly feel like everyone deserves a space to speak (which I think you do). Alas, some people are just dickheads. Full marks for trying as long as you did!

Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:48:00 pm  
Blogger tigersnake said...

Article in today's age about how philippino bloggers are bringing down the government there.

Of course they didn't give a single URL...

Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:26:00 pm  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

And US soldiers in Iraq now have to register with authorities if they want to maintain a blog. Clearly dissidents are no longer welcome. These voices certainly provide interesting perspectives.

Do I need to define "singular" and "plural" to you, Antony? The one person ("dissenting voice") you have linked to seems to have rather less to say than you infer. He hasn't posted since 15/10/2004.

I'm sure you'll see proof of Bushitler censorship in that, but as you yourself point out, all soldiers have to do in order to blog is register.

That means it is far more likely that this squaddie just woke up one morning and realized: "damn, I really was talking garbage for a while there."

Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:09:00 pm  
Blogger Shay said...

good call Antony. If someone wants to spray vitriol on you (and let's face it, there are plenty who do!), they should at least have the guts to name themselves, even using a pseudonym, so we know if the same person is resurfacing.

Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:41:00 pm  
Blogger Vasco Pyjama said...

Registered now, as I would like to continue to learn and contribute. But I will continue blogging on rather than blogger.

Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:50:00 pm  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

"good call Antony. If someone wants to spray vitriol on you (and let's face it, there are plenty who do!), they should at least have the guts to name themselves, even using a pseudonym, so we know if the same person is resurfacing."


You call yourself "Shay", you don't permit people to see your blog through the comments link, nor do you even allow them to see your blogger profile.

That's two explicit instances of really blatant hypocrisy that I've seen here today, by two seperate commenters.

Keep it up!

Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:30:00 am  
Blogger Vasco Pyjama said...

Hello Mike Jericho. When I google your name, I find 14,400 hits. When I google my name, I get 16 hits. Yep, each of them about me. You will find out where I work, where I have worked, and yep, if you get electoral roll, you can figure out where I live.

And I live alone. I have no family in Melbourne. It is a choice of security, not of anonymity.

I have provided my blog details, so that you may see my thoughts, reflections and experiences over the past three years. There is even a photo of myself on See? I am real. Chinese Australian, 32, development (aid) practitioner.

Why this obsession about my real name? Why call me a hypocrite?

Sunday, July 17, 2005 12:15:00 pm  
Blogger tigersnake said...

Yeah it's a nice sentiment, but there are too many scumbags out there who'll abuse your details or attack you anonymously in return. Anon allows open expression- it's up to the individual to adopt a system of ethics that ensures they aren't abusing it.

Sunday, July 17, 2005 2:42:00 pm  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

Vasco, dude, couldn't you see this sentence in my post?

"You call yourself "Shay"..."

I was quoting & responding to the post that "Shay" made. Not you. He/she was saying that anonymous commenters are all evil and stuff, I just pointed out that he's/she's well, kinda anonymous.

I don't have a problem with anonymous commenters. At all. Just hypocrites.

But you will find that the "anti-Anonymous" brigade around here isn't made up of neocons like me.

They're all die-hard leftists who use it as a lame ad hominem diversion from any good points that a RWDB commenter might make.

I think people ought to be able to express themselves as they like. It's the argument that's important, right?

Evidently leftists don't agree, but then again, it's probably because leftists have an innate love of totalitarian control.

Sunday, July 17, 2005 6:29:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Perhaps we should invite Andrea Harris to "moderate" the comments here, Mike. Any thoughts? Or would criticism of Blair be too much like hypocrisy?

PS Why are you trolling here anyway? Not getting enough hits at your semi-blog?

Sunday, July 17, 2005 6:49:00 pm  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

God, you guys really whine like a bunch of pussies sometimes.

I'm not trolling. If you notice, I'm not attacking anyone personally. I usually disagree with Antony about something he's said, and lay out my views. Then you guys lay in with the personal attacks, and all of a sudden *I'm* the troll.

Don't start crying if I decide to retaliate a little.

On the issue of comments, it's a matter for the blog owner. Free speech doesn't apply to comments on blogs. Blogs are a clearinghouse of the owner's views. If they don't want to play host to dissenting views, they aren't forced to do so in the name of political correctness.

The "freedom of speech" part comes in when a disgruntled, banned commenter goes out and gets their own blog. If they want to make it a true "free expression" zone, then good for them.

Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:20:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Paraphrase: "If we disagree, you are a pussy, but I won't be abusive. Oh, and get your own blog."

Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:29:00 pm  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

No, I referred to your style of complaint, which I regard as of the "whiny, pussified" variety. Complaint voiced in a reasonable way is quite okay.

Look up the word "gravitas". That's what you need to insert.

And I encourage all people to get their own blogs. I've no idea why some people haven't.

Oh, and lastly, sarcastic paraphrasing is the lazy man's rebuttal.

Sunday, July 17, 2005 11:34:00 pm  
Blogger duckmonster said...

I used to read Raed's (Khalid's brother) blog from Iraq around the start of the war. Its really amazing how, reasuringly, mundane the wants of a 20 something iraqi male is and how that interacts with invasion.

Basically the deal was, that alot of young dudes around baghdad where actually kinda looking forward to the americans. They figured it would bring, well, the west with them. Booze, Rock and roll and , as it was put, "pussy". A fairly crass dream, but entirely normal for any young male on this planet.

The reality turned a little sour. The first thing that seemed to happen was after shit got blown up all over the shop, a power vacuum formed that the americans couldnt fill. This was filled by religious conservatives who set about pulling down the secular world of iraq and replacing it wish a mish mash of Sunni and/or Shiite structures that basically meant fat chance for sex drugs and rock and roll. Not that anyone missed Sadaam, but the alternative seems as bad.

His ma writes an interesting blog too. I'm still convinced mothers are omniscient.

Monday, July 18, 2005 2:31:00 am  
Blogger Glenn Condell said...

I vaguely recall a Mike Jericho being pursued by Nabokov and others on a local blog a while ago, because he'd made some claim about his military service that he wouldn't verify. Could have been someone else, if so, sorry Mike.

But if not, the comments above suddenly become a bit more interesting than they seemed.

Monday, July 18, 2005 9:13:00 pm  
Blogger Andjam said...

It was Nabby who couldn't verify his claim.

Monday, July 18, 2005 10:25:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Nabakov finds it difficult to put forward a single coherent argument most of the time. I find it hard to believe he was pursuing anyone.

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:31:00 am  

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