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Thursday, August 18, 2005

Two birds with one stone

Don Myles contributes to Murdoch columnist Andrew Bolt's online forum:

"Multiculturalism is a cancerous and destructive policy that has never worked in any country and never will. We already see enclaves of ethnic groups that will never assimilate and are already giving rise to "tribal gangs". Of all religions, Islam is the most satanic and destructive and it's history shows it. Muhammet was a butcher, not a prophet."

Bolt calls the comments "rather strong."

Of course, if was back in mid July that Bolt himself confidently pronounced: "It's time we accepted the difficult truth: many of the Muslims we invite to live in Australia want to destroy us."

"Many Muslims", he says. How many exactly? 20? 100? The Muslim population of Australia is around 300,000. Surely "many" means more than half. No doubt Bolt interviewed many Muslims before the writing of his column.

14 Comments:

Blogger Shabadoo said...

In one recent poll of British Muslims, about 1/3rd of respondents offered basically the Chris Rock defence of the 7/7 bombers: "I ain't saying what they done was right. What I'm saying is, I understand."

If those numbers are remotely similar here, you could be talking about 100,000 people with enough hostility to this country that they would tacitly accept it's bring-down by force, and perhaps the imposition of some sort of sharia-type law (which would liberate us all from such terrible things as coed beaches, the Australian wine industry, and polio vaccines). I'm not sure your customary glibness is called for here, Ant.

Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:09:00 am  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

p.s. Why not quote Bolt's entire response: Satanic? Rather strong, Don. I suspect we'd be better off giving reformers in Islam support in defanging their faith.

Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:10:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

100,000 Muslims might want to bring down Oz?
Right, let's deport them right now.
We only want nice Christians (oh, some Jews, if we have too).
Shab, want to do the selection process?

Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:19:00 am  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Bolt should read "The Hijacked Caravan".

Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:45:00 am  
Blogger Iqbal Khaldun said...

A standard refrain from people whose only purpose is to avoid serious analysis, lest we actually solve the ills of the world, is to curse a segment of the population which poses an easy target. The Muslims of the 21st Century are the easiest target in this respect. But we are not alone, and it is important to remember that. In many regional parts of Australia, the main enemy is seen to be little Aboriginal kids stealing clothes off clothing lines. Hence harsh mandatory sentencing laws.

What if we interviewed Messianic Christians, or asked Ariel Sharon what he really thought about Palestinians? What about the Vietnamese, and the lack of regard for their own worth according to a leading American war criminal like General Westmoreland? If our aim is solely to rank the world's peoples into a list of least to most hate-ridden, we'd be handing out gold medals to everyone. Scratch the surface, and you soon discover that every hate-filled ideology is inspired by ignorance and fear, orchestrated by those who believe they can enjoy some benefit from making those who will listen to them act on this ignorance and fear, and seek to extirpate a convenient other.

Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:11:00 pm  
Blogger Andjam said...

Aren't you gonna disengage yourself to England, Ant?

Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:12:00 pm  
Blogger evan jones said...

These exchanges presume that suburban gauleiters like 'shabadoo' and 'Mike Jericho' dwell in the world of the rational.
Rather we have the invasion of the body snatchers.
The usual rules of logic and evidence don't apply.
A threat of sharia law in Palestine? Hello.
As for the exodus of Jewish communities in predominantly Arab countries, check the story of Iraqi Jews, an integrated community neatly dismantled by maddog Zionists anxious to effect numbers in the UnHoly land asap.
And other Sephardic Jewish communities trucked in as cannon fodder, just to further establish facts on the ground.
Add the Russian mafia and the converted Peruvian jews, and Jeez, it's almost a model of multiculturalism!
Beneath it all, we have an active Zionist lobby in Australia ardently in defence of a rogue state whose raison d'etre is ethnic cleansing in the vain hope of an ethnically pure state.
An endless propaganda machine tirelessly devoted to the innate inferiority of the Arab and Muslim world. Race hatred par excellence.
So Shab, why don't you get a life. Move out of home, and read something other than the propaganda tracts that have been your bread and butter.

Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:29:00 pm  
Blogger HackWatch2004 said...

And don't they just love bolt over on Stormfront.
From now on i will attach the phrase "endorsed by neo nazis" whenever I mention bolt.

Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:43:00 pm  
Blogger evan jones said...

Don Myles claims:
'We already see enclaves of ethnic groups that will never assimilate and are already giving rise to "tribal gangs".'
Is Myles referring to the enclave stretching from St Kilda to Caulfield?

Friday, August 19, 2005 9:13:00 am  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

Hey Hackwatch -- and they love David Hicks over at the racist neo-nazi Adelaide Institute -- so what's your point?

Friday, August 19, 2005 9:34:00 am  
Blogger Andjam said...

And don't they just love bolt over on Stormfront. From now on i will attach the phrase "endorsed by neo nazis" whenever I mention bolt.

They don't all like him. (Found with this search if anyone's interested)

They call him a neo-con:

Andrew Bolt never criticizes the juden, believes Israel is a democracy, Rivkin is a lovable scoundrel, Palestinians are terrorists and Iraq had WMD. While at the same time conveniently ignoring the overwhelming influence of the juden on left liberal ideology that he "rails" against.

And they also complain about his attacks on environmentalism.

Jennifer Loewenstein (quoted by Antony in a recent post) gets an "endorsement" here.

Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:41:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

I know jennifer and she'd be appalled to be 'used' by right-wing groups. Are we saying that certain groups may use and abuse individuals or groups, therefore those people are bankrupt? Hardly.

Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:12:00 am  
Blogger Andjam said...

I was replying to Hackwatch2004's comments.

You were silent about him saying that stuff about Bolt, but not when I mentioned Jennifer.

Why?

Saturday, August 20, 2005 4:03:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

I presume that Bolt wouldn't like to be associated with far right groups, though in my view, he's a bigot himself.
Many countries have these types, predictable, knee-jerk, defenders of local 'values.'
Jennifer is a friend, and Bolt is now.
Besides, I can only judge Bolt on his writings, and let's face it, the guy can barely write...

Sunday, August 21, 2005 2:48:00 pm  

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