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Tuesday, October 18, 2005

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- Stanley Kubrick's The Shining refigured.

- American magazine Mother Jones investigates Boeing and wonders whether its planes are unsafe.

- The pro-Zionist lobby works its magic at the Sydney Morning Herald.

- Noam Chomsky is the world's greatest intellectual. Sounds about right.

- Scotland's Sunday Herald issues a scorching editorial:

"If and when the so-called war on terror ever ends, our grandchildren or our great-grandchildren may well look back in disbelief and wonder how it could have been that, at the turn of the 21st century, the two nations that waged a global conflict under the banner of democracy could have so blatantly flouted that principle.

"The 'extraordinary renditions' programme, which breaches every law on international human rights, sees the United States target suspected terrorists anywhere in the world, kidnap them, drug them, cuff and blindfold them, bundle them on to a secret CIA jet and whisk them off to a 'friendly' nation such as Egypt, Uzbekistan or Morocco, where 'friendly' secret policemen can torture, rape and murder them.

"The UK colludes happily with this. We allow the CIA’s fleet of jets to come in and out of UK airports to refuel and get other logistical support while they ferry their captive human cargo around the world. Scotland has the proud distinction of being the most popular stop-off point for CIA flights on the gulag-and-torture-chamber-express."


Blogger Shabadoo said...

Re: the Herald's publishing Dersh's piece, sounds like you don't think they should have done so...we wouldn't be trying to censor someone else's opinion and stifle dissent now, would we?

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:44:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

That Alan Dershowitz, "some symbolic recognition of the rights of Palestinian". What a card.
Here in the U.S. he has also advocated torture. What moral authority.
Peace. Your fellow Human

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:47:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Far from it, just know the likely reasons behind it. As transparent as possible and when was the last time a prominent Arab or Palestinan was given similar space. Exactly...

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:47:00 pm  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

Yawn...more bitterness from the fired interweb cadet about internal Herald processes...clearly you've taken your old boss MagrO's beliefs about the wily Jews and the media to heart...

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:51:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

I actually know how it works in there.

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:01:00 pm  
Blogger Marcus said...

Bah! Umberto Eco running SECOND to Chomsky. The vote was rigged I tell you!

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:41:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Yawn... more meaningless ad hominem prattle from the blogless predictable Shab...

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:10:00 pm  
Blogger boredinHK said...

From your link -all a bit of good natured parlour fun is how the poll(100 big brained types ) was described.But it goes on to state the following :

Goodhart(guy from the mag which ran the poll ) "thinks the debate about Chomsky’s worth is bound to continue. On the one hand he is the author of a profound contribution to linguistics. On the other his pronouncements outside his area, in politics, are often simple-minded and maddening."

That's a polite way to describe them.

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:43:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

RE: "- The pro-Zionist lobby works its magic at the Sydney Morning Herald."
Shabadoo said...
"we wouldn't be trying to censor someone else's opinion and stifle dissent now, would we?"

The point is that OVER TIIME (a) the S.M.H. gives only one point of view on the Palestine/Israel Tragedy [there has been only one dissenting article in the last year or so]; (b) that point of view is a decidely right-wing secular Zionist one; and (c) the entire issue gets far more space in the opinion-pages than any other non-national issue.

You don't get this much coverage of one issue from one side unless you're paying for it. It's just not good economics.

RE: "- Noam Chomsky is the world's greatest intellectual. Sounds about right."

Well, since that second-rater Hitcho came in 5th IN THE WORLD I will disregard this list altogether.

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:53:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Over time, the SMH has decided that both sides are not right, and that the Israeli side seems to be clearer, more concise, and truer than the Palestinian side.

Dahlmer had a point of view, but no paper gave him as much press as they gave the police and the Judge. Rightfully so.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:16:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

"Well, since that second-rater Hitcho came in 5th IN THE WORLD I will disregard this list altogether."

5th? Holy shit!!! You mean to tell me that many people have been conned by that propagandist Trotskyite water-boy?

I guess he'd still be squirming a the fact he came 4 places behind his neisis though.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:01:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

David Goodhart, the editor of Prospect, describes the exercise as a “bit of intellectual fun, a parlour game. It’s not meant to be entirely serious.

So, like Noam, it was a joke. Good one. I heard he couldn't be bought. Persanally I believe that was a typo, he can't be brought. Hygene or something is what I heard.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 5:01:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Love hm or hate him, Noam has inspired people to think for themselves rather than believe everything they see on television or read in the paper.

If he was as insignificant as ibrahamv would like us to believe, I doubt he'd invoke such overt reactions from both sides of hte spectrum.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:07:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

He has merely inspired fools to greater depths of antisemitism.

He is significant, a significant source of material for neo-nazis, white supremists, holocaust deniers and others of that ilk.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:19:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Chomsky appeals predominantly to intellectuals, who overwhelmnigly empathise with Israel, not the ingnorant or uneducated, who are most prone to anti-semitic leanings.

He is no more responsible for anti-semites using his works that Ford or Chrysler is for selling cars to these same people.

The ramblings of ADL president Able Foxman, who has proclaimed that anti-semitism is as prevalent today as it was in 1930 and who lobbied to prevent the Passion of Christ being screened, provide more grist to anti-semites than Chomsky.

Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:24:00 am  

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