The Guardian discovers yet more evidence of Israel's hampering of the peace process:
"A confidential Foreign Office document accuses Israel of rushing to annex the Arab area of Jerusalem, using illegal Jewish settlement construction and the vast West Bank barrier, in a move to prevent it becoming a Palestinian capital.
"In an unusually frank insight into British assessments of Israeli intentions, the document says that Ariel Sharon's government is jeopardising the prospect of a peace agreement by trying to put the future of Arab East Jerusalem beyond negotiation and risks driving Palestinians living in the city into radical groups. The document, obtained by the Guardian, was presented to an EU council of ministers meeting chaired by the foreign secretary, Jack Straw, on Monday with recommendations to counter the Israeli policy, including recognition of Palestinian political activities in East Jerusalem."
If evidence was still needed of Ariel Sharon's determination to prevent a true Palestinian state, today's revelation is yet another nail in the coffin of the media elite. The Melbourne Age yesterday called Sharon's recent political move as "boldly invoking the hope of peace."
When will they ever learn?
"A confidential Foreign Office document accuses Israel of rushing to annex the Arab area of Jerusalem, using illegal Jewish settlement construction and the vast West Bank barrier, in a move to prevent it becoming a Palestinian capital.
"In an unusually frank insight into British assessments of Israeli intentions, the document says that Ariel Sharon's government is jeopardising the prospect of a peace agreement by trying to put the future of Arab East Jerusalem beyond negotiation and risks driving Palestinians living in the city into radical groups. The document, obtained by the Guardian, was presented to an EU council of ministers meeting chaired by the foreign secretary, Jack Straw, on Monday with recommendations to counter the Israeli policy, including recognition of Palestinian political activities in East Jerusalem."
If evidence was still needed of Ariel Sharon's determination to prevent a true Palestinian state, today's revelation is yet another nail in the coffin of the media elite. The Melbourne Age yesterday called Sharon's recent political move as "boldly invoking the hope of peace."
When will they ever learn?
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I suspect the US either doesn't care what Israel does - after all, they're essentially funding the entire state - but rest assured their assessments may be a little different.
They'd have 20+ assessments by all sorts of US intelligence agencies, semi-official think tanks and the ones passed on by foreign buddies.
It would go down to a political decision in the State Department on which one(s) to accept.
I believed that Israel had annexed all of Jerusalem shortly after 1967.
The US has wisely decided that Israel should decide what Israel does.
As for funding the State, what is it's gdp? How does 3 or 10 billion affect it? How much of that 3 to 10 billion is used to purchase good from the US?
It is widely stated but not widely understood. That because it is not true. The US knows that Israel, on its own, will decimate the area. The US is all that keeps the palestinians going. Their arab brothers seem to desire they stay in poverty.
The 1.6 trillion figure is a joke, but antisemites love to trot it out. Wonder why? Wonder why Addamo trotted it out? Seems coincidental?
Here are some of the sites that Addamo could have pulled that figure from:
www.counterpunch.org/frank01302003.html - 18k
http://www.democratsdiary.co.uk/2005/10/wiped-off-map.html
http://www.churchoftrueisrael.com/nsforum/ns12-09.html
http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=LpIyh9
Some ultra liberal, some islamist, some even white supremist, but all known to post their share of antisemitic material.
But the ones stating the aid being 1.6 trillion are straight neo-nazi or islamo-fascist fronts. Why does addamo visit those sites for his info and still deny his antisemitic bent?
If you are keeping your arse on neo-nazi websites, then you pulled it out from there.
Israel is prepared to defend its citizens. If attacked enmass by palestinian hordes, there will be dead palestinian hordes. You call that genocide, to kill those who attack you? You're just plain letting that antisemitism infect and rot your brain.
Not so, only that Israel would not be constrained, as it has been, in the defense of its citizens.
Only an antisemite would think that my words in anyway are declaration that Israel has any such agenda. Heidi, you have outed yourself, congratulations.
How does it feel to be out of the closet?
Of course they came to that conclusion? Why wouldn't they, seeing their mindset?
Sorry to keep your antisemitic blood lust in check, but it is defense, and the scope of retaliation in that defense would not be constrained by the need to keep America's good will, should your scenerio play out.
Funny how it almost seems you foam at the mouth when you think you've closed a trap. Sorry buddy, but you'll just have to stay hungry.
War is never desirable. Even though it appears that Islam regard war as morally desirable. What is desirable is that Israel's enemies learn the error of their ways through an epiphony, as one might wish you would.
But seeing as that is not going to transpire in the Arab world anytime soon, Israel will keep its defenses up and retaliate as needed.
The only albatross around here is the one that impedes your gait, for obvious reasons.
It certainly appears that Islam forments war for religious fanatic purposes. I don't pretend to understand most things about it but I keep reading current sermons begging the people to kill the Jews.
I insist that Israel's ownership of the land is legal, and its insistance on peace prior to giving it to the Palestinians for a state is legal.
You, like the Palestinians, continue to ignore the fact that when you wage war you die. And the Palestinians are setting themselves up for death.
International law states that Israel is legally in possetion, as there is no palestinian sovereignty and Egypt and Jordan gave up all claims. While israel being in possession of once was Islamic land may incite Arabs to war, that is their tough luck.
Your opinion does not trump International law, neither does the opinion of 57 Islamic nations.
And eddie's opinion is indeed worth 2 cents.
Eddie, you're merely pointing out your desire to point fingers at Jews. We all know that.
And as my opinion is certainly worth more than yours, I wonder what inventive description we could come up with?
Notice how antisemites always try to turn the tables by calling a Jew a neo-nazi lurker?
Couldn't you come up with anything new eddie? Your comments just make you sound like a shrew, or possibly another fool upset that they were not 'chosen'.
You consider Israel defending itself to be committing suicide? With that logic, the jews were comitting genocide against the germans in the warsaw ghetto.
What a sick antisemitic fool you are.
Heidi, since you keep bringing it up it is obviously uncomfortable for you and instead of showing how it doesn't apply, you just prove that it does. Poor, poor Heidi. Your attack on Israel is through an antisemitic portal. Don't think that all can't see it.
Here's the rub of eddie' antisemitism - he doesn't like the way Israel defends itself. They are not playing by eddie's rules.
He certainly couldn't abide by the Warsaw Ghetto comparison, yet Palestinian hoodlums try to use it all the time, with nary a word from eddie. That double standard is also a symptom of Eddie's antisemtism.
Like eddie, Addamo has finally admitted the cruxt of his antisemitic feelings:
The Jews got more than the UN intended. The Jews have ignored the non-binding antisemitically inspired UN resolutions. Those resolutions which are binding are not complied with by the Jews because they unfairly wait for their enemies to comply with the requirements.
Both eddie and addamo are crying because they think the Jews aren't playing fair.
My, my.
I stated no such thing. I stated that, by International law, Israel inhabits most of the land, including all of Jerusalem, in a legal manner, after having gained such land in a defensive war waged against nations who have reliquished their claims after 19 years of illegally occupying said land.
The body that voted to partition the Brish mandate no longer functions in what would loosely be termed an unbiased legal fashion.
You are, consistantly, antisemitic.
I have not argued tht posession is 9/10 of the law. The UN is not a body which decides legality.
The territory happens to belong to Israel. It once belonged to the Ottoman's, it passed to the British, it was partitioned to the Arabs and the Jews, The Arabs didn't like it, even though they were part of the UN that voted on it, and declared war and attacked. they lost, but not before accupying Gaza and parts of Judea and Samaria.
19 years later they were building up a force to destroy Israel and lost again, being boorted out of the lands they were occupying. Many years later, they gave up all claims to the land.
The UN resolutions that Israel ignores are non-binding and are meaningless. The binding ones require action by the Arabs. Until the Arabs comply, Israel has no need to comply.
You'll notice theat UN resolution 242 does not mention Palestinians. Ever wonder why not?
What treaty states that France belongs to the French?
Why does UN resolution 242 not mention the Palestinian people? Does it mean that the UN recognized Gaza as belonging to the Egyptians and portions of Judea and Samaria as belonging to the Jordanians? Seems like it to me.
And then they both stated they no longer wanted the area. Could it be that the Arabs living there were a source of embarassment to them? Who knows?
Heidi took a self administered exam and expected someone to trust him? Go back to steven. He'll accept you as you are.
Eddie's stance regarding injustice makes my heart break. Exactly what justice was to be exacted when the Palestinians murdered 4 young sisters and their pregnant mother?
Exactly who is deliberately murdering women and children as a way to liberate themselves from being ruled by Jews?
Addamo, why don't you mention the name of the Muslim Arab who put the extra bullets into the girl after she was already dead? Or how the girl deliberately entered a known war zone?
And eddie???? too funny for comments. Living in lala land.
You see no need because it was so embarrassing that this cold bloodedness yo complain about is from the same source that brutally murdered those 4 little girls and their pregnant mother at point blank range?
Still trying to come up with an apologist stand to where it is alright for an arab muslem to slaughter jews in cold blood, but not alright to pump 17 bullets into a corpse, probably out of frustration at some palestinian animal forcing her to run in their to tesy defenses?
You are a sick ass racist and to afraid to admit it.
Yes, addamo, you're a racist. And you're little friend mannie is following in your footsteps!
Here's his first canard: "everyone in the whole world who is not a zionist Jew is anti-semitic!" It is a favorite quote of neo-nazis in an attempt to disarm by a pre-emptive strike in defining the terms. They use it all the time. Seems like Mannie learned his lesson well.
You sound like Stalin read you night time stories before he crawled into your sheets. Is that why you're so paranoid and feeling inferior? Uncle Joe not around to make you feel good about yourself? Did he teach you how to be a nutcase?
If so, he did a good job.
You can not put the smelling salts under eddies nose and attempt to declare victory. One would think you were egyptian.
Poor addamo, eddie was carried out of the ring on a strecher. perhaps he'll regain conscienceness later.
Did you goosestep around the ring afterwards when the crowd left for the celebrations with Ibraham?
At least you dream big.
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