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Friday, February 03, 2006

Buckle up

The Washington Post reports on the latest pronouncement from Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld:

"The United States is engaged in what could be a generational conflict akin to the Cold War, the kind of struggle that might last decades as allies work to root out terrorists across the globe and battle extremists who want to rule the world, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said yesterday.

"Rumsfeld, who laid out broad strategies for what the military and the Bush administration are now calling the 'long war,' likened al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin while urging Americans not to give in on the battle of wills that could stretch for years. He said there is a tendency to underestimate the threats that terrorists pose to global security, and said liberty is at stake.

"'Compelled by a militant ideology that celebrates murder and suicide with no territory to defend, with little to lose, they will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will succeed in changing theirs,' Rumsfeld said in a speech at the National Press Club."

I wonder how long this "long war" may continue. I'm still young, but would like to retire before the end. After all, with so many "evil-doers" and "terrorists" to eliminate, I suspect I may be on my third pair of dentures before victory is declared.

16 Comments:

Blogger boredinHK said...

A long piece but shows the effort being made to try and address the issues.
http://www.policyreview.org/000/corn.html

My guess - shorter than the cold war - maybe about the same as the war in south east asia, so 30 years ?

Friday, February 03, 2006 6:18:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

"likened al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden to Adolf Hitler and Vladimir Lenin"

Oh Jeez. You'd think they could get a little bit more creative than THIS. Bloody hopeless. Whose writing these screenplays? The writers of the latest Chuck Norris movie?

"the battle of wills that could stretch for years"

Bloody hell. It's boring enough NOW. Nothing ever happens. It's all recycled headlines - "Terror suspect caught", "Terror suspect released - insufficient evidence", "Govt passes new 'insufficient evidence' law", "Usama releases new tape - reviews Finkelstein's latest", "Zawahari still on the run", "Zawahari still, still on the run", "Bomb threat neutralised - car alarm switched off", etc., etc.

And then there are the years of insufferable, racist rants from Akerman and Bolt, and Henderson recycling the same circa 1976 article urging us to never forget the Reds Under the Bed. Please, no, noooooooo.

Friday, February 03, 2006 9:06:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

From Bolt's website:
"the Herald Sun paid several thousands of dollars for my trip, and the extra expense to taxpayers amounted to – I'd guess – to somewhere between $40 - $150.

Why did it cost the tax-payers anything? The variation from the estimated minimum ($40) is up to 275% ($150). Why couldn't it be more than that? Surely there are public records kept on this sort of thing in order to prevent rorting of the public purse.

Friday, February 03, 2006 9:23:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

And then today, Rumsfled what reciting that pathertic ad hominem about Chavez being democraticalyl elected just like Hitler was.

So when it'e the Middle East in quesrion, democracy is the fruit fo the vine that must be shared. When democracy get;s in the way, it's the poison that gave rise to Hitler.

What moonbat logic.

It's no surprise hearing Rummy;s ratings. He, like Cheney and co are Cold War veteran chickenhawks, linging for the return of the good old days.

Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:46:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Addamo_01 said...
"And then today, Rumsfled what reciting that pathertic ad hominem about Chavez being democraticalyl elected just like Hitler was."

Well, when the Big Book of American History is written, at least no-one will be accusing George W. of being democratically elected like Hitler was.

Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:11:00 am  
Blogger orang said...

All these people,Rumsfeld Chenney, Bush, Rice have lost their credibility entirely. Whatever they say is not taken seriously by anyone other than the hard core, whether Republican, RWDB ..
When I hear Rumsfeld say something like this, the immediate response is to shout at the TV, "Blow it out yo' arse you stupid c*nt! What f&kin war on terror - where is it? What is it?" And then my wife screams, "Are you crazy??? Shouting at the TeeVee???"

The concept of a war is needed so that we all agree the US and the free world are in danger from the evil doers. Once that is firmly imbedded in our genes, then no issues with spending zillions on the military toys, and billy bob heroically getting his head blowed off in the defence of his country while serving on one of the twelve aircraft carrier fleets which is gunboat diplomacying it's way around the world.

So to use boredinhk sentence,
"My guess - shorter than the cold war - maybe about the same as the war in south east asia, so 30 years ?" ..After that some Marketing guru consultant for Washington will call it something else, Lukewarm War, or Crusade for Peace(better not), Return of the Jedi..Someone will think of something, because you know there will always be a "war". There has to be.

Sunday, February 05, 2006 8:11:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Another very entertaining post Orang.

Ironically, the Bushevicks have actually become a very useful source of informartion. I you want to knwo what is really happening, just listen to what Cheney, Rummy, Condi and Dubya have to say, then reverse it 180 degrees.

Like Edward said earliers, cold war warriers are now dusting off their old screeds and doing mass word replace macros on Communism with Islamofascism. and Communist threat with terrorism.

Sunday, February 05, 2006 3:38:00 pm  
Blogger Clumsy Birds said...

Whose writing these screenplays? The writers of the latest Chuck Norris movie?

Edward, no doubt we differ greatly on the political spectrum- but please, leave Chuck Norris out of your posts in the future. He's a good man, a good actor, and he'll spin kick you twice before you can say 'ouch- its Chuck Norris'.

As for your comments on Bolt, he's not a racist. Prove me wrong.

I do agree, however, that tax-payers shouldn't put any funds into Bolt's trip, and if he requires ADF security- he should pay for it.

Likewise, if other journo's such as Fisk rely on the US army for security while in Iraq, they too should pay their way.

Monday, February 06, 2006 2:13:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

The thing is Clumsy, the Fisk rarely relies on such protections. He has strong connectino in the region as he is based in Lebanon anyway.

Monday, February 06, 2006 12:13:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Hitler wasn't democratically elected, incidentally.

Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:07:00 am  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Oh, and Bush was. Interesting inverse take on history you have there, Edward...

Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:08:00 am  
Blogger Clumsy Birds said...

Fisk rarely relies on such protections.

Are you implying that Bolt relies on the ADF all the time or something?

I'm honestly not sure what you're getting at.

Are you saying because Fisk 'rarely relies on such protections', he should get it for free or something?

If you were making a point addamo, you'll have to explain it to me a bit better, sorry.

Tuesday, February 07, 2006 1:31:00 am  
Blogger Clumsy Birds said...

Addamo, if you're still reading this. What do you think of this?

I think it puts a questionable light on Fisk's reporting, myself. And his decision that Jesus was born in Jerusalem instead of Bethlehem just makes him look like an idiot.

Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:46:00 am  
Blogger Progressive Atheist said...

Jesus, if he existed at all, was not born in Bethlehem, as that town did not exist at the time he was supposedly born. Neither did Nazareth.

Tuesday, February 07, 2006 11:37:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Who told you that rubbish, Progressive Atheist? Bethlehem featured rather extensively in the Old Testament - which considerably predates the birth of Jesus (who undoubtably did exist). Nazareth's existence is slightly more questionable - although it's far from conclusive fact that Nazareth did not exist during Jesus's lifetime.

Going by your username, it's not surprising your facts aren't completely straight about these sorts of things. Still, one wonders why you're so bold to discuss issues you don't seem to have a particularly firm grasp on.

Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:38:00 pm  
Blogger Progressive Atheist said...

You are quite right, James. Bethlehem did exist, though Nazareth definitely did not.

Going by your username, it's not surprising your facts aren't completely straight about these sorts of things. Still, one wonders why you're so bold to discuss issues you don't seem to have a particularly firm grasp on.

Help me, James. What can I do to be saved?

Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:54:00 pm  

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