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Thursday, July 28, 2005

Paying the price of peace

Peaceful protest of Israel's "security" fence is deemed dangerous by Israeli forces, according to a stunning Haaretz report. Most disturbingly, numerous IDF soldiers have been caught lying about the circumstances in which Palestinians are arrested and making up false testimony about stone throwing and other violence.

Israel's descent continues.

12 Comments:

Blogger Shabadoo said...

Meanwhile...

Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:14:00 pm  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

And Palestinians are doing a bang up job of respecting the ceasefire.

Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:31:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

You people really don't get it.
Keep on repeating the same lie and people start to see through it. Israelis and Jews don't need to prove their worth for a state (despite running an illegal and immoral occupation) but Palestinians must prove their worth and niceness until Western interests are satisfied they deserve a state of their own....?
Sigh...

Friday, July 29, 2005 12:44:00 am  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

No Antony, they merely need stop sending young people into Israel illegally to blow themselves up.

May I ask what Sharon has done in reprisal? It would seem... nothing.

It's what's more uncommonly known as a "respecting a ceasefire".

Friday, July 29, 2005 2:25:00 am  
Blogger evan jones said...

As the tree that falls in the forest is not heard, so the subjection of a people by a tyrannous regime on grounds of racial purity is a non-fact.
http://stopthewall.org/communityvoices/919.shtml

Friday, July 29, 2005 7:34:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

If anybody truly thinks that Sharon and his ilk have any interest in peace, they're are deluded as Bush. But then, Israelis are never at fault are they? An oasis of civility in the Middle East..

Friday, July 29, 2005 10:04:00 am  
Blogger Rich Bowden said...

Without claiming to be an expert on this, it seems to me the real tragedy is that, while both ordinary Israelis & Palestinians obviously want only one thing - peace and security,the politics of the conflict seems to be manipulated to prevent this from happening.

Thanks for the info Antony - looking forward to the publication of your book on this subject!!

Friday, July 29, 2005 11:22:00 am  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

absolutley spot on Antony - you see it was Sharon who walked out of Camp David and launched suicide bombings and all out terror as an alterantive to negotiating. And it is under his leadership that Israeli schools and media propogate 24/7 racist inctiment - brainwashing their own citizens... especially young children - who are taught genocidal hate and racism and are indoctrinated into becoming suicide bombers.

And we can always go back in time to 1948, when the Israelis rejected the two state solution via a UN resolution and launched a war of all out genocide to throw all palestinians into the sea.

Of course we can argue that Jews turn to racism, terrorism, genocide and suicide bombings out "hoplessness and despair" -- after all it was all that gas from the gas chambers that made them do it.

And yes, Antony its the Arabs who are blameless - to believe otherwise is delusional.

Friday, July 29, 2005 3:14:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

On the grounds of racial purity?

Evan Jones you are spot on about the genocidal aims and ambiitons of the Palestinian Authority and terrorist groups.

Friday, July 29, 2005 3:17:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

You know its really quite startling that people who purport to fight against "racism", "injustice" and "inhumanity" and use subsequent Orwellian newspeak to call anyone or anything that they merley disagree with - "racist" or "facist..." fall silent at the genocidal aims and the racism and downright facism that comes out of the Arab world and the Palestinian Authority in particular.

Any comment or condemnation on the Nazi like Geobellesque propaganda coming out Palestinian Authority Television and schools? the indoctination of Palestinian children? We dont even need to go to the Arab world - how about Muslim book stores in Australian cities? any comments?
Did someone just crow about racial purity or previously bark about "racism" "intolerance" and "backlashes" on this blog?

Friday, July 29, 2005 3:25:00 pm  
Blogger evan jones said...

Germans and most of the rest of the world claimed not to know about the Nazi aryanisation of Germany and Eastern Europe.
Many of the Jewish diaspora (with vocal exceptions who are excoriated for their honesty) not only know about the Judaisation of Palestine but actively support it.
There doesn't appear to be an adequate vocabulary in the English language to accurately describe the shameless and contemptible hubris of this posture.

Friday, July 29, 2005 7:17:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

Im having a little trouble understanding you're pseudo-intellectual clap trap. In fact, I think you're having a little trouble undertsanding yourself.

translation: are you suggesting that Israel is a modern day Nazi Germany...no actually worse? And does Lowenstein share this view?

The evidence to support what you are saying is certainly in abundance -- just look at what Jewish bookstores sell in Brunswick/Lakemba...er..sorry Caulfied. Look at that the Rabbis of Melbourne and Sydney preach. They certainly do belive in their own superiority dont they?

The irony of you're suggestion is not lost when Mein Kampf and the protocols of the Elders of Zion are number one best sellers in the Arab world and a regular theme on Palestinian TV is "kill the Jews and infidels wherever you find them". or the fact that the Arab world was allied to Nazi Germany and the founder and father of the Plaesitnian National movement was a Nazi war criminal who spent the war years in Nazi Germany, was a regular VIP visitor at Auschwitz and incited his close friends Hitler, Himmler and Eichmann to murder and gas more Jews.

keep ignoring the blatant bigotry and genocidal racism of the Arab world and divert the topic to "Israelis/jews are Nazis" etc. For left-wingers who purport to be on the side of "justice" and "human rights" that certainly helps you're cause and makes you look geniune.

Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:11:00 pm  

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