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Monday, July 18, 2005

Timely link

The Iraq war is linked to the continued strength of al-Qaeda, according to a respected English think-tank. "Riding pillion with a powerful ally [the USA] has proved costly in terms of British and US military lives, Iraqi lives, military expenditure and the damage caused to the counter-terrorism campaign", the Chatham House organisation said.

The obviousness of such a statement should not be underestimated.

UPDATE: Iraq's insurgency is not, as claimed by Bush, Blair and Howard, being led by foreign fighters with a history of animosity towards the West. Rather, the Iraq war has led a number of men in the Muslim world to fight the West. The conflict has radicalised a new generation in the Arab world.

11 Comments:

Blogger Mike Jericho said...

Chatham's Exec. Director (Professor Victor Bulmer-Thomas) has been against the war from the start, and has gone out of his way to underrate and undermine every positive step taken in the war on terror - all without ever seeming to advance any better alternatives.

It's almost as though the man and his group's sole purpose is to sap public morale. Good thing for him and his pals this isn't WWII, where, care of the government, such organisations were relocated from their cosy offices to someplace less plush.

Monday, July 18, 2005 4:06:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Chatham is just the latest to report these findings. The British govt itself predicted that Iraq would increase the chances of attack.
Surely there comes a time when we look at our actions and wonder if we're at least partially responsible for creating the monster?
Or, as Blair, Bush and Howard blindly prefer, continue on their merry way without hesitation....

Monday, July 18, 2005 4:18:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Mike, are you suggesting that the argument presented is invalid simply because Chatham is opposed to the war? That's not much of a rebuttal. How about the content of the report?

As for "sapping public morale", I'd say that the situation on the ground in Iraq has done more to create public doubts about the war than any published report.

Monday, July 18, 2005 5:19:00 pm  
Blogger evan jones said...

Mike Jericho has missed something fundamental.
There is no war on Terror. Period.
So what Jericho means by 'positive steps'is difficult to fathom.
So if Bulmer-Thomas is undermining something, it must be something else. Bears investigation. It is just possible that here is a Conservative with brains and integrity.

Monday, July 18, 2005 5:46:00 pm  
Blogger Andjam said...

So you reckon East Timor didn't increase the risk to Australia of terrorism, but Iraq increased the risk to Britain of terrorism?

Iraq's insurgency is not, as claimed by Bush, Blair and Howard, being led by foreign fighters with a history of animosity towards the West.

Who's the most senior of the management who doesn't have a history of animosity towards the west?

And what does "no history" mean anyway? The September 11 hijackers had "no history" of aminosity towards the west. September 11 was their first and last action against America.

Monday, July 18, 2005 9:58:00 pm  
Blogger Mike Jericho said...

CNN disagrees with you on the issue of foreign Vs domestic Iraqi "resistance".

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?id=2005071809030002945365&dt=20050718090300&w=RTR&coview=

It would seem that the Iraqis would take umbrage with your assertions, Antony.

Monday, July 18, 2005 11:43:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Mike, does it bother you that these so-called Iraqi militias, funded by US/Britain, are conducting themselves little differently to the forces in the days of Saddam? Widespread torture, executions etc...
And to seriously suggest that the Iraq war hasn't contributed to Muslim anger is simply denying reality.
What do many people deny that our actions, Western actions, have ramifications, often negative ones?

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:24:00 am  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Note to Ant: Make sure you agree with CNN.

;-)

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:32:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

Antony, almost anything and everything increases the anger of Islamist extremists...including the fact that you breath. shame you dont realise it yet.

More laughable is you're attempts at denying the Timor link. - you cant convienantly pick and chose which conflict is the source of Islamist anger, otherwise you are just living in a world of denial.

(ok so 88 australians were murdered before the Iraq war...it...was in that case rather provoked by ...the agreesive zionist occupation and their aggressive zionist checkpoints...am I right Antony?)

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:33:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

Antony, almost anything and everything increases the anger of Islamist extremists...including the fact that you breath. shame you dont realise it yet.

More laughable is you're attempts at denying the Timor link. - you cant convienantly pick and chose which conflict is the source of Islamist anger, otherwise you are just living in a world of denial.

(ok so 88 australians were murdered before the Iraq war...it...was in that case rather provoked by ...the agreesive zionist occupation and their aggressive zionist checkpoints...am I right Antony?)

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:34:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

"Rather, the Iraq war has led a number of men in the Muslim world to fight the West. The conflict has radicalised a new generation in the Arab world."

Radicalised in what way Antony? to murder hundreds of their fellow Arab muslim brethren in daily suicide attacks in Baghdad and other Iraqi cities? Oh, I forgot the Americans made them do it...they are really that desperate and hopless after all and thats what desperation and hoplessness leads to.

And are you denying that these so called "insurgents" are forgein?

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:55:00 pm  

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