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Friday, August 05, 2005

Reaping what they sow

So a Jewish extremist has killed four Palestinians in an event likely to inflame tension in the region. Let it be understood that there are now thousands of Jewish fundamentalists determined to disrupt the upcoming "disengagement" by whatever means. Another massacre - on the scale of the 1994 event perpetrated by Baruch Goldstein in Hebron killing 29 Palestinians - is brewing and almost inevitable.

The Israeli government and its various world supporters have consistently refused to subdue or control Jews who openly advocate Palestinian ethnic cleansing, murder and mayhem. Why? Jews shouldn't have to manage Jews, so the thinking went. The results are plain to see.

In related news:

"A federal grand jury on Thursday indicted two former officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) on charges they received classified national defense information from a Pentagon analyst, court documents show."

The "special relationship" between America and Israel is unlikely to change significantly in the coming years, but cracks are starting to appear. When an increasing number of Americans wonder aloud whether the tens of billions already given to Israel are worth the hassle, I suspect I know the answer.

Israel is on notice.

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Blogger Comical_Ali said...

"The Israeli government and its various world supporters have consistently refused to subdue or control Jews who openly advocate Palestinian ethnic cleansing, murder and mayhem. Why?"

Antony before you ask "why", are you able to contrast what is broadcast on mainstream state funded Arabic and Palestinian TV and written in Palestinian Authority to what is broadcast and written in the Israeli media? That should in some way answer your question and prove that what you saying is a complete fallacy and distortion of the reality.

So let me turn the question around a little - The Palestinian Authority its various world supporters have consistently refused to subdue or control Muslims who openly advocate Jewish ethnic cleansing, murder and mayhem. Why Antony?

Given what Israelis have had to go through, the response by Israelis taking the law into their own hands is suprisingly moderate and rare -- and on average happens once every 12 years (Goldstien was the last ine). And the usual suspects who call for "understanding of the root causes of Arab terror and murder" like yourself, should undertsand this.

Friday, August 05, 2005 11:51:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Ah, incitement from the Palestinian and Arab side. Yep, all Arabs want to kill Jews, I forgot.
I'm well aware of this material and have often condemned extremism and lack of freedoms in the Arab media on this blog.
Jewish extremism, frequently ignored in the Israeli mainstream and tacitly supported by many, including the Sharon govt, has been causing chaos for years, in the territories, destroying Arab crops, infrastructure and injuring many, many Palestinians on their own land.
But I suppose they're only Arabs, so you don't really care about that...

Friday, August 05, 2005 12:00:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

"I'm well aware of this material and have often condemned extremism and lack of freedoms in the Arab media on this blog."

When? Where?

I'm not saying that all "Arabs want to kill Jews". All I'm asking is for you to compare the mainstream Palestinian media (which is an arm of the Palesitnian Authority) to the mainstream Israeli media. In that way, one can get a much clearer picture of what is going on. Simple.

Jewish extremism frequently ignored by Israeli mainstream? The recent attack is making headlines in Israel. And an alleged attempted lynching of a Palestinian was only brought to light and made known by the Israeli media -- once again making headlines in Israel. The fourth estate in Israel hates the Israeli rightwing and settler movement and go out of their way to blacken their name.

Jewish extremism...destroying Arab crops and infrastructure... Yes, these Jews are evil. If only Arab terrorists resorted to just destroying crops and infrastructure...if only their attacks on Israeli civilians were as frequent and occur on avarge once every twelve yers.

Friday, August 05, 2005 12:15:00 pm  
Blogger Levi9909 said...

But Ali, Israel is a segregationist state based on colonial settlement and ethnic cleansing. Do you really think that Israel could have existed without terrorism? Sharon himself has been indicted for war crimes by Belgium though the charges were dropped because he's a Prime Minister. He was also found to be "culpable" over the massacres at Shatila and Sabra. You seem to think that delivering bombs by air and by tank is somehow morally superior to delivering them by hand and sticking aroung while they go off.

I suggest that you go read Moshe Machover's essay on suicide bombing here - http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=924

You'll like Machover, he's Israeli.

Friday, August 05, 2005 2:37:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Thanks Levi, just added JSF to my blogroll.
Keep up the good work.

Friday, August 05, 2005 2:47:00 pm  
Blogger Levi9909 said...

Me too, if you see what I mean.

Mark

Friday, August 05, 2005 3:17:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

if israel is a segregationist state - why do Arabs have citizenship, vote and participate in elections. why is it the only country in the ME which gives all of its minorities religious freedom and a right to vote? why did a large number of Arabs in East Jerusalem and the Golan heights rush to apply for Israeli citizenship after facing with the prospect of being re-occuppied by the Palestinian Authority and Syria respectivley? Why has the Arab christian population in Bethleham decreased from 90 percent to under 3 per cent after the PA took it from the Israelis?

And if it conducts ehtnic cleansing - why is the Palestinian population in the territories have the largest population growth in the entire Middle east. That must be some ethnic cleansing.

Back up empty rhetoric with facts.

Sharon was already and tried and cleared by a leftist Israeli commission for war crimes. Belgium should be busy prosecuting its own over Congo.

As for bombs and tanks..where are the tibetian suicide bombers? According to your logic - Jews reserve the right to murder innocent Germans.

Friday, August 05, 2005 4:42:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

if israel is a segregationist state - why do Arabs have citizenship, vote and participate in elections. why is it the only country in the ME which gives all of its minorities religious freedom and a right to vote? why did a large number of Arabs in East Jerusalem and the Golan heights rush to apply for Israeli citizenship after facing with the prospect of being re-occuppied by the Palestinian Authority and Syria respectivley? Why has the Arab christian population in Bethleham decreased from 90 percent to under 3 per cent after the PA took it from the Israelis?

And if it conducts ehtnic cleansing - why is the Palestinian population in the territories have the largest population growth in the entire Middle east. That must be some ethnic cleansing.

Back up empty rhetoric with facts.

Sharon was already and tried and cleared by a leftist Israeli commission for war crimes. Belgium should be busy prosecuting its own over Congo.

As for bombs and tanks..where are the tibetian suicide bombers? According to your logic - Jews reserve the right to murder innocent Germans.

Friday, August 05, 2005 4:42:00 pm  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

considering what the germans did to the Jews of course...which doesnt even compare to what is happening under so called "Israeli occupation".

Friday, August 05, 2005 4:46:00 pm  
Blogger Oscar said...

"Comical"_Ali,

Ethnic cleansing happened in 1948, when 800000 Palestinians were driven out, in 1967, when 300000 were driven out, and it still happens. Have you ever heard the figure for the number of Palestinian refugees? It's four million. THAT's some ethnic cleansing.

Then again, someone who puts "Israeli occupation" in quotation marks, as if it just doesn't exist, is not worth talking to.

Sunday, August 14, 2005 1:38:00 pm  

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