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Wednesday, September 28, 2005

Issue goes international

US-based Counterpunch publishes my article on the recent controversy regarding attempts by Federal Labor MP Michael Danby to censor my forthcoming book on Israel/Palestine. Read it for a perspective on the wider issues at play.

Since publication, I've received dozens of emails from around the world, including Australia, Iceland and America. And I'll be appearing tomorrow on an LA radio station explaining the story.

UPDATE: I'll be on KPFK's "Middle East in Focus" program tomorrow.


Blogger Ibrahamav said...

It is funny that there has been a call against the book before it has been written.

Perhaps he merely does not want the reputation of the University to suffer because of your prose.

But I say, "Let the University sink" if the book winds up to be nothing but rehashed horse shit.

However, if the book exposes the danger that the forthcoming 2nd islamist Palestinian state brings with its illegitimate birth. Then it will have done the world good.

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:24:00 am  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Antony - how was Danby trying to censor your book? I ask this question in good faith, for there may have been correspondence between Danby and others that I am not aware of. If so, could you please enlighten me.

All I've read of Danby's regarding this issue is harsh criticism of what he perceives is in your book. He urges others not to buy it, and hopes your publisher drops the project. If this is all you're going on, please inform me how is this censorious? From these statements, he's not attempting to stop the publication of your book, or hinder its distribution. However, as I said before, if anything else has come to light that you do think counts as censorship, then I'd love to know. For example, is he trying to use the direct power of his office to force MUP to drop the book.

And please don't come back at me saying that the power of his office is used tacitly when he says he hopes MUP drops the project. The man is allowed to offer an opinion without being labelled censorious.

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 11:26:00 am  
Blogger anthony said...

"All I've read of Danby's regarding this issue is harsh criticism of what he perceives is in your book."

From what I've seen on Antony's blog, thats about it. Loewenstein's views on Israel are well known, and Danby is warning the public in advance. Or at least thats the impression i got.

I also dont think its fair for you to criticise the aus. Jewish community for agreeing with Michael Danby and hoping to see the book flop.

Of course, Danby doesnt need to do much, there's a 'markplace' of ideas to take care of any rubbish (thats why most critics of Israel are socialists)

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:51:00 pm  
Blogger J F said...

Wonder if Antony will appear on KPFK's Radio Intifada program? If so, how fitting.

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:04:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

If anything, Ant, Danby is providing excellent publicity. Let him continue doing so - look what that kind of heckling has done for that other MUP release...

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 5:33:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

dirtbikeoption - Danby's said his piece, I think. It's Antony who keeps crapping on about how Danby's trying to censor him. It's Antony trying to milk this for publicity. I imagine Danby's moved on.

I ask again - how is Danby trying to censor you, Antony? You really should answer this. It goes to the heart of a little something called your credibility.

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:18:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

It's pretty clear. Danby has moved on? Shows how much you understand the issues at stake.
When a MP threatens a publishing house, it's called attempting censorship. His comments subsequently only continue that feeling. Funny, most people seem to understand what Danby is trying to do...
My credibility? Yes, I'm devastated that you think it's in question...

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:21:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

How precisely is offering an opinion - "MUP should drop this project" - a threat? What has he threatened them with? This is an example of a threat, my semantically challenged friend - "If MUP doesn't drop this project I'm going to (insert calamity here)..."

THAT'S a threat. And that's not even close to what Danby said. He didn't attempt to censor you. He censured you, that is definitely a fact. Learn to differentiate between the two.

And which "subsequent" comments might you be referring to? How long ago were they made?

Face it, Antony, you're committing the same crime you censure the Packers and Murdochs for - you're beating up this non-event for profit and personal gain. Remember that next time you whinge about some phoney Today Tonight piece. You're no better than them, and your book promises to be equally as disregardable.

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 8:15:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

I look forward to you buying a copy, my WA clueless soul....

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:05:00 pm  
Blogger anthony said...

Another great attack on your critics, Antony.

If James is going to read it, I imagine he'll get a copy from the library.

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:19:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Yeah, Antony, that's a truly pathetic riposte. Your lack of a counterpoint is extremely revealing.

But, from my perspective, it's nice to have my point so conclusively proven. Cheerio!

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:37:00 pm  
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:40:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

And Anthony - there's no way in hell I'd waste my time reading the output of a guy whose stock-in-trade is deception and misinformation.

Oh, hang on, I better not say that - Antony might accuse me of censoring him!

Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:41:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

James, thanks for proving your subjectivity. Anything you say about the book once it's published can be readily disregarded. Ciao.

Thursday, September 29, 2005 8:21:00 am  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Let's focus on the point at hand, dirtbikeoption. Do you think Loewenstein was the victim of attempted censorship? And, since he's trying to flog this erroneous and deceptive notion far and wide to attract attention, how do you think this augers for his book? What else will Antony do in his quest to make a headline, especially in terms of what's in the book?

These are all reasonable questions. Feel free to dodge them if you don't like the answers, dirtbikeoption (and Antony).

Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:58:00 am  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

James, yes I feel that there was an effort made to censor the book. A preliminary one - a tester, I suppose, to see how far it could be taken. Erroneous and decptive notion? Fancy words, and they'll likely earm you a pat on the back if you link to them at Blair's blog. I disagree. I would instead suggest that those who label Loewenstein as a Jew-hater and so on are the real liars - and, in some cases, criminals.

How this augers for the book? Dunno. And don't care. I hardly think anyone will pick up the book simply because there is a bit of controversy going on - this happens often, such as when Manne and Windschuttle were exchanging blows. And as for the book's content, I haven't heard much of it yet. I could guess, like you and your mates, or simply fabricate - but in reality I don't know.

Have I answered your questions, James? I look forward to your meaningless and long-winded reply - perhaps you could even link to this thread from your own blog and claim some kind of verbal stoush occurred in which you proved your moral and intellectual superiority over the demented lefties. Wouldn't that be exciting? Your little counter will go troppo!

Monday, October 03, 2005 11:33:00 am  

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