Yesh Gvul
Courage To Refuse
Shministim
Pilots
Free The Five
New Profile
Refuser Solidarity Network


Name: Antony Loewenstein
Home: Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Comment Rules
About Me:
See my complete profile



Google
Web antonyloewenstein.blogspot.com
Sweat-Shop Productions
Sweat-Shop Productions
Sweat-Shop Productions



Blogs

Sites




Previous Posts



Powered by Blogger

 


Monday, October 03, 2005

Bali

Jason Burke, The Observer, October 2:

"It is tempting to see the bombs in Bali yesterday as part of the wave of attacks launched by the supposedly still omnipresent al-Qaeda. But Islamic militancy in Indonesia, and in the Far East generally, is not new. It certainly far pre-dates Osama bin Laden

"As local people, the bombers were denied entry to the clubs, which they apparently resented. The clubs and the tourists were seen as alien intruders - 'dirty people', one bomber said, and brazen about their 'adulterous practices'. In the bombers' minds the attacks were a blow against moral pollution and a step to creating a Dar ul Islam.

"The latest attacks will be born of the same feelings, probably fused with anti-Western, anti-Semitic nihilism. They show again that killing militants or jailing them can only be a short-term solution. They also demonstrate the fundamental moderation of most of the 270 million Indonesians, who have little sympathy for the killers in their midst."

The bombing is an outrage and the ring-leaders should be brought to justice. However, Murdoch's Australian believes that such attacks "make the case for the anti-terror laws agreed to by the premiers and Prime Minister John Howard last week."

Such legislation would have made little difference to killers who are determined to cause chaos. Existing laws give authorities more than enough power to watch or interrogate suspects. Don't let fear-mongers tell you otherwise.

5 Comments:

Blogger Ibrahamav said...

What is not new is Islam-based mass murder. It appears that Islamic forces want war. They think they can win.

We're not proving different because they appear to have no reverance for life, not even their own.

Monday, October 03, 2005 7:48:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
What is not new is Islam-based mass murder.

That's an interesting view because most Indonesians regard these terrorists (and even the whole Wahhabist doctrine) as anathema to Islam. They tend to get labelled heretics in Indonesia. I suppose that means the average Indonesian just doesn't hold to a truly Islam-based religion. If so, then you have more in common with the extremists than the average Indonesian does.

It appears that Islamic forces want war.

Gee, that's a bit of a gorss generalisation, isn't it? But then again, I'm not sure what you mean by "Islamic forces". Are we talking about an entire nation? A few isolated crazies, or what? It's all a bit too vague to make sense of.

They think they can win.

You seem to have a good knowledge of what they think. Have you been interviewing them for a magazine piece or something like that?

We're not proving different because they appear to have no reverance for life, not even their own.

...said the Palestinian widow. But that's a whole other helicoper gunship of an issue methinks.

Monday, October 03, 2005 9:48:00 pm  
Blogger Andjam said...

If JI manages to pull off an attack as big as 2002 again, then I'll ponder whether jailing and killing terrorists is a failure.

"As local people, the bombers were denied entry to the clubs, which they apparently resented. The clubs and the tourists were seen as alien intruders - 'dirty people', one bomber said, and brazen about their 'adulterous practices'. In the bombers' minds the attacks were a blow against moral pollution and a step to creating a Dar ul Islam.

Score one for "They hate our freedoms".

If the want sympathy, they can look it up between sub-machine gun and tank.

Monday, October 03, 2005 10:32:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

"anathema to Islam"?? Many Islamists try to fool westerners into believing it.

Most don't. Wonder why not?

Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:04:00 am  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
"anathema to Islam"??

Yes, that's right - the average Indonesian Muslim thinks puritanical Wahhabi doctrines and practices are anti-Islamic. Try asking some in your local area. Or visit Bandung or Yogyakarta and ask people there. You might (indeed would) be surprised.

Many Islamists try to fool westerners into believing it.

What's an "Islamist"? Who are they precisely? Where are they hiding out? Are they under the bed - where the 'Red' used to hang out?

Thursday, October 06, 2005 4:47:00 pm  

Post a Comment

<< Home