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Saturday, October 01, 2005

Fisk live

Robert Fisk talks to ABC Radio National about Lebanon, reporting from Iraq, his estimation of around 150,000-200,000 casualties in the war-torn nation since the US invasion and whether he'll continue going there due to the ever-heightened risk.

"The country is gone", he says, with the insurgency controlling large swathes of the country.

Fisk is currently in Australia and his tour details are here.


Blogger Ibrahamav said...

150K to 200K? And we should take him seriously? His credibility just went to hell in a hand basket.

But the Arabs will love him

Saturday, October 01, 2005 4:28:00 am  
Blogger Iqbal Khaldun said...

Mate, when it comes to credibility and Iraq I think Fisk is somewhere well behind some obvious others. Um, I dunno, like the leaders of the civilised world who lied their way leading up to and during the invasion, have looted the country, and who share principle responsibility for the social, political and humanitarian disintegration of the country.

Saturday, October 01, 2005 10:30:00 am  
Blogger Pan-Arabist said...

And your credibility, Mr. Av, is non-existent.

Good day.

Saturday, October 01, 2005 12:05:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Panny, I am not asking the world to accept my credibility, Fisk is.

Saturday, October 01, 2005 1:38:00 pm  
Blogger anthony said...

Fisk is the guy who had his arse kicked by an angy Arab mob, right?

Seems to be a lot of them in the Middle East...

Saturday, October 01, 2005 3:22:00 pm  
Blogger ph7 said...

10,000 - 100,000 - 200,000 - 6 million

When does it cross-over from being 'collateral damage' & become genocide and at which number does it stretch credibility?

Perhaps we could come up with some number ranges & forward them to the US military as the guidelines that they should be working towards.

Any suggestions?

Sunday, October 02, 2005 12:17:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

It becomes Genocide when the Political-Military combination decides that it is going to wholesale eliminate every man, woman, and child of a particular people.

It becomes a holocaust when that same group then occupies several countries and gears up to wholesale eliminate those same particular people living in those other countries, devoting manpower and resources needed to sustain its war effort because the wholesale elimination of those particular people is more important.

Get it?

Sunday, October 02, 2005 1:49:00 am  
Blogger Pan-Arabist said...

Right, you cannot refute, so you deny statistics for your own political ends.

Sunday, October 02, 2005 4:10:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Refute what? That Fisk has absolutely no proof to assert that his guess is remotely within the borders of truth?

Sunday, October 02, 2005 5:20:00 am  
Blogger Pan-Arabist said...

...and you do? Please give me your estimate, because obviously the 100,000+ Iraqi death estimate taken in 2004 was unreliable since John Hopkins University and the Lancet are well-known Ba'athist fronts. Give me a break.

Monday, October 03, 2005 8:26:00 am  

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