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Thursday, October 13, 2005

Opportunistic alliance

Inter Press Service News Agency:

"After more than 30 years of organising testimonial dinners for right-wing Israeli politicians, handing out checks to Israeli charities, and forming alliances with conservative Jewish leaders and groups, evangelical Christians may finally be getting a chunk of the 'Promised Land'.

"In a move geared toward solving northern Israel's unemployment crisis, increasing tourism to the country, and solidifying relations with U.S. evangelical Christians, the Israeli government has offered 35 acres of land on the shore of the Kinneret (Sea of Galilee) for development by Christian evangelicals."

The ever-increasing relationship between Israel, the Christian Right and Zionists may seem beneficial in the short-term, but it will inevitably result in tears: vastly different ideologies and radically varying religions. A mutual dislike for Palestinians is common, however.

12 Comments:

Blogger Ibrahamav said...

This is a fairly old story. Running out of things to say?

Regardless, 35 acres is a small amount of land and, unlike in many Arab countries, it is not illegal to sell or give land to non-muslims.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:00:00 am  
Blogger Pete's Blog said...

Look whatever's good for those Israeli's is good for America and vica versa.

Godamit Israel is the 51st state.

It provides a perpetual reason for the US meddling in the Midddle East.

And now we have a rightwing Christian in the White House - so whaddaya expect.

US forces in Iraq can move into Syria. Meanwhile Israeli forces can move north into Syria and there'll be a big party.

If Muslims got any complaints "bring um on" before the Iranians get the Bomb.

Kinda like World War Three.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 12:13:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Just as America meddles in the affairs of Canada, Mexico, and other countries of interest to its citizens.

But it is not the 51st state.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:27:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

The relations between the U.S. evangelical Christians, the Israeli government shouod be soemthing to behold. Still this whole alliance is driven by a distrubing agenda. Not because of Israel, but because the agenda of the Chistian right is so dellusional.

The evengelicals support for Israel is drinevn by a perverse faith that believes the lands of Israel must be returned to the Jewish people before their savior will return. That is where etheir allegiance to Israel ends.

As I understand it, their believe also preaches that the Jewish nation will be forced to accept Christ oas their saviour or otherwise face damnation.

Talk about treating Israel as some expendable entity!

Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:42:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

The relationship is rather uneasy but better that than a relationship with a religious group that praeches cutting Jewish throats.

At least with the Christians, there's a chance the horse might talk.

Thursday, October 13, 2005 3:56:00 am  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

What an incredibly bizarre, racist, and bigoted post...let's try this: "The ever-increasing relationship between France and the Muslim world may seem beneficial in the short-term, but it will inevitably result in tears: vastly different ideologies and radically varying religions. A mutual dislike for Americans is common, however."

Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:48:00 am  
Blogger David said...

Israel as 51st state? No, then they'd only get 2 senators.

(BTW, nice to see Zionists like Shabadoo worrying about someone other than just Israel for a change.)

Thursday, October 13, 2005 2:20:00 pm  
Blogger anthony said...

No, then they'd only get 2 senators.

You are aware that each state only gets 2 Senators?

Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:48:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Ibrahamav: "This is a fairly old story. Running out of things to say?"

Does the Faurisson affair count as old?

Thursday, October 13, 2005 11:33:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Addamo_01 said...
"Still this whole alliance is driven by a disturbing agenda.

Yes, they need to get ALL the Jewish Diaspora back to Israel, AND all the Arabs out of the 'Biblical Lands' (which currently includes on merely the occupied territories, but bits of other pre-existing countries), AND they have to rip down the Dome of the Rock in order to then re-build the old Second Temple. It is then and only then that The Rapture will occur, Armageddon, the Second Cumming, Judgement Day, and then an Eternity of Jerry Springer re-runs and the Bee Gees on 'repeat' for all us 'Unelected' types.

Not because of Israel, but because the agenda of the Christian right is so delusional."

Delusional, true. Utterly insane, more true.

"The evangelicals support for Israel is driven by a perverse faith that believes the lands of Israel must be returned to the Jewish people before their saviour will return. That is where their allegiance to Israel ends. As I understand it, their believe also preaches that the Jewish nation will be forced to accept Christ as their saviour or otherwise face damnation. Talk about treating Israel as some expendable entity!"

Not so! at least some of these crazies. Take the Christians for Israel for example. These Dutch Calvinists (great haters of those bastard Lutherans) believe the Jews' covenant has not been broken and so they are automatically members of the elect as part of god's racially discriminatory Grand Plan. (Well, partially racial - god wasn't up on the developments in genetics at the time, so he was working with the slightly discredited "Mother's Blood" racial theory.)

That's not to say there aren't fundie Protestant Christians who are just treating fundie Zionists as a "means to an end", but that's OK because the fundie Zionists are treating them as a "means to an end" too - Kant would be spinning in his grave.

Friday, October 14, 2005 12:25:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

So all of that is least likely to occur.

And the The Faurisson affair is a term given to an academic controversy in wake of a book by Robert Faurisson, a Holocaust denier. The scandal largely dealt with the inclusion (without permission) of an essay by Noam Chomsky.

Friday, October 14, 2005 7:20:00 am  
Blogger Glenn Condell said...

Shab, ibraham

how much does AIJAC pay you guys to slum it on Ant's threads? Is it by the hour? Can't be by the word given that the paucity of words is as impressive as the absence of ethics and balance.

Just kidding. True believers don't need payment.

Monday, October 17, 2005 5:48:00 pm  

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