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Wednesday, November 30, 2005

Money buys lots of lollies

Who said that being a multimillionaire defence contractor doesn't make good business sense? David H. Brooks' daughter had her bat-mitzvah last weekend in the US, so naturally enough daddy wanted to show how much he cared - while ignoring the misery his job actually creates - and hired a plethora of A-list musicians to entertain the audience/kid's party.

A worthwhile lesson in how dirty money can be used for good...instead of evil.


Blogger Shabadoo said...

Two things:

1. I hate bringing up this card over and over again, BUT this sounds an awful lot like the whole Jewish war-profiteers crap that was spewed over WW1...

2. Brooks' company, DHB Industries, makes bullet-proof vests and the like - you make it sound like he's making bombs and bullets when in fact he's making the technology to save soldiers' (and cops') lives.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:28:00 pm  
Blogger Pete's Blog said...

Oh Shab

Even body armour in Iraq is a weapon of war.

Just lets soldiers live to fight n kill more "A-rabs" another day.

(Ad time) However see my blog story on how Martin Luther King Jr fended off the FBI.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 6:47:00 pm  
Blogger smiths said...

Bulletproof vest maker DHB Industries (ticker: DHB) CEO David Brooks pay rose a staggering 3,349 percent from 2001 when it stood at $525,000 to 2004 when it reached $70 million. In addition, last year Mr. Brooks sold company stock worth about $186 million, triggering a stock plummet from above $22 to under $7.

war profiteering, pure and simple

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:46:00 pm  
Blogger smiths said...

furthermore shabadoo,
after a careful look at this blog over the course of a number of weeks it is clear that the only racists here are you and ibrahamov,
antony posts about war profiteers and you bring up jews, why?
i for one dont think you give a shit about dialogue, you are either a natural spoiler or a paid one,
either way its fucking pathetic

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:51:00 pm  
Blogger uphillsprinter said...

Spying Bad Things says:
" to fight n kill more "A-rabs" another day."

love how you harden the initial vowel on arabs, a tactic used in WW2 with the I-talians.

and too right smiths. They remind me of pundits working for murdoch, each trying to out do each other on 'fixed' or fox news, dialogue way out of their skillset.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:21:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Of course, let's blame the racism on this site on its victims. AL the antisemite innocently brought up 'bat-matzvah', never realizing that it was something Jewish and that it might be interprited as a slam about Jews profiting off of war as a reason why they encourage nations to have wars.

Is that smith hanging out of AL's ass or is just an optical illusion?

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:56:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
"Is that smith hanging out of AL's ass or is just an optical illusion?"

Why so many of your insults focused on arses? Just curious.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:01:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

I had no idea a bat-mitzvah was Jewish? I had a bloody bar-mitzvah myself in the good old days...
As I say, making money by military means is morally wrong. Of course, some little capitalists are proud of anyone who makes a buck, no matter the means.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:09:00 am  
Blogger J F said...

All Australian military personnel are immoral?

Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:27:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

To some, making money by any means is exploitive. That you object to some making money off manufacturing body armer is a reasonable objection.

Your interjection that the money was used for a party celebrating a religious event is a little off topic. To suggest it was jewish is antisemitc.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:22:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

I agree. Making money from body armour is hardly the conduct of bottom feeders of the business wrold, given that it actually saves lives. I imagine that most of this materials involved would be multi-purpose anyway.

I also agree that using proceeds to fund a bar-mitzvah seems irrelevant. No more significant that using the proceeds to provide the lifestyle that such fortunes can offer.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:22:00 am  
Blogger Pete's Blog said...


I'm sure Manuel in Fawlty Towers would have queried "keh?" to your quixotic question.


Re "A-rab" - yes its the hard "A" many Americans use (particularly from the South).


Sometimes the anti-blog dissenters to which you refer are sound intellectual sparring partners and this should be appreciated.

Though I wonder whether Shaboo has dedicated his existence to keeping AL "honest". If so a noble, but, at times, tedious sacrific.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:31:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Keeping me honest? Jeez, I think I'll be looking elsewhere for moral guidance. A man who celebrates hangings and advocates torture exudes such bravery...

Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:49:00 am  
Blogger Glenn Condell said...

'Your interjection that the money was used for a party celebrating a religious event is a little off topic.'

Horseshit as usual. The thing is, a man who has made shitloads of cash from a business profiting from the deaths of innocent people in an illegal war, decides he'll spend ten million of it on his daughter's party. That is a disgrace.

'To suggest it was jewish is antisemitc.'

Err, it was a Jewish celebration wasn't it? Isn't bat-mitzvah a Jewish ritual? AL didn't 'suggest' it, the report did, and it's not a 'suggestion' it's a plain fact that needs no 'suggestion'. How do you live in such a paranoiac fug? Do you feel the ethnicity of the principals should have been suppressed? You're all for freedom of the press except when it reveals facts that don't comport with your ugly world view.

Had the daughter's party been a whitebread Christian birthday celebration, it still would have been news. Still, it's not a good look is it, to have US Jews flaunting wealth generated via the misery of their ancient enemies.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:31:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

I see what your getting at Glenn, and I usually agree with you, but it is pretty volatile to link obscene war profits with an extravangent bat-mitzvah.

War profiteers will obviously spend the money they make, and will usually do so with vulgarity. The sad thing about our society is that wealth money forgives all. Wealthy people are imbued with a high of respectibility and morality, whether they derve it or otherwise.

I'm sure Brooks has spent equally obscene amounts on all kinds of indulgences.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:07:00 pm  
Blogger smiths said...

for f**ks sake, the actual event is irrelevant,
wedding, bat-matzvah, twenty first birthday,
antony was not inferring any significance between profiteering and relegious event, nor was the original article,
it is a simple tale of immoral profit and sickening extravagence,
stop making it about anything else,

and agreeing with a point of view is hanging out of someones arse, yes yes,
the bummer of this age for me is that the really stupid aggresive twats genuinely got the upper hand over the intelligent people who care and can coherently explain why they care,

Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:35:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Smith, AL was deliberately linking a rite of passage in the Jewish religion with profiteering on war.

But you're still hanging out of his ass, aren't you? Like being a shill? Does it pay well?

Seems AL is still pissed at the accident of his birth.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:11:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Actually, I wasn't, but why let facts get in the way of a good yarn?
I would have linked to the story if the family were Christian, Muslim, whatever. The point was simply about a man profiteering from war. His religion was secondary, at best.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 3:42:00 pm  
Blogger J F said...

AL wrote:

As I say, making money by military means is morally wrong.

So, you deem all Australian military personnel to be immoral, right?

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:39:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Sorry, but you've blown it on this one. This is pretty sick, dude. Were you recitimg The Protocols of the Elders of Zion as you typed? Do you hear the voices of the Illuminati? Can you still hear the lambs screaming, Clarisse?

Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:52:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

J F said...
"So, you deem all Australian military personnel to be immoral, right?"

One assumes A.L. is referring to war-profiteers rather than wage-slaves. That is, to those who, from the safety of their comfortable homes and offices, make a conscious decision to generate exorbitant profits via the sale of instruments of death, and who only make exorbitant profits if there is death-dealing to be done; to those who, being good business people, are interested in the maximisation of profit, and thus who are quite consciously interested in the maximisation of deadly conflict. Such people are quite different from soldiers who are willing to put their lives in mortal danger in defence of lives and ideals, and who draw a wage irrespective of whether they are ordered to kill other human beings.

Here endeth the lesson on ethics.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:54:00 pm  
Blogger J F said...

There endeth the lesson on evasion. We shouldn't have to assume anything: Mr Loewenstein should clarify.

It is Australia's military personnel – all of whom are volunteers – who employ the instruments of death.

For the third time AL, are Australia's military personnel immoral or not?

Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:12:00 pm  
Blogger boredinHK said...

In the interest of fairness and clarity AL could perhaps show us all one family from each religion -christian ,muslim ,hindu, shinto........
er, you get the point I hope.
Only for fairness and clarity I mean.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:25:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Eddie gave a lesson in ethics? That's a laugh. But now we have an insight on his lack of educational credentials.

Friday, December 02, 2005 12:14:00 am  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
"Eddie gave a lesson in ethics? That's a laugh. But now we have an insight on his lack of educational credentials."

Well, economics is my area, so I suppose you're right. :P

Friday, December 02, 2005 1:33:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Everyone's educational credentials are suspects here except for Ibraham’s, the master of all knowledge and the benchmark for human conscience.

Friday, December 02, 2005 2:54:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Making money from war is immoral, as the sweet David H. Brooks can testify. I have never said all soldiers are immoral, or anything of the sort.
As usual, please don't let the facts get in the way, you brave truth tellers!
And tell me, how is that liberation coming along?

Friday, December 02, 2005 9:13:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

To most ultra-liberals, making money by anything but your own sweat is immoral.

Friday, December 02, 2005 12:49:00 pm  
Blogger boredinHK said...

Making money from war ?
The guy sounds like he also screwed a bunch of small investors into the deal.
AL how is it possible to be strict ?
The guy who invented the wire framed containers which are used to build retaining walls was an ex miner from Yorkshire. The US military made him one of the UK's richest men but his product doesn't kill anyone ,still his profit is immoral?
Why highlight only one person who has make a lot of money in this way ? Your point is confused by this .

Friday, December 02, 2005 6:00:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

No confusion. His point was to highlight a Jew he considered immoral. We all got his point.

Friday, December 02, 2005 9:54:00 pm  
Blogger boredinHK said...

I'd prefer AL to answer for himself
but if that is his point ,there isn't one . Lots of people make profits form war, disease ,restricting others rights .
So what if some people of a certain faith do this , people of all faiths do it.
This site is degenerating if that is all it's about.

Friday, December 02, 2005 10:11:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

If AL answered honestly without all the layers of his screwed up life, I would perfer his answer too.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:51:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Most sites degenerate when you start throwing in subtle antisemitic reasoning for the troubles in any particular region.

The same reason why any site degenerates when ever hints of racism is used to explain things.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:56:00 am  
Blogger Robert Wendt, Jr. said...

Wow - what a thread. If Arabs are Semites, isn't it anti-Semitic to kill 100,000 of them in an illegal immoral war based on lies and "fixed" intelligence?" How about digging up Muslim graves in a 1,000-year-old Jerusalem cemetary to make room for a Museum of "Tolerance" underwritten by the Simon Wiesenthal Center? If those actions are not anti-Semitic, nothing is.

Friday, February 10, 2006 6:37:00 am  

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