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Monday, December 26, 2005

Welcome to reality

Iran's leading hard-line newspaper has called Iraq's recent elections as "the creation of the first Islamist state in the Arab world."

It went on:

"Of the 275 seats in Iraq’s new parliament, 140 will belong to pious Islamists, 60 will be occupied by Kurds with excellent ties with Iran, and 40 will belong to Sunni Arabs, most of whom want a sovereign, Islamist state."

The Western nightmare continues.


Blogger Wombat said...

WASHINGTON - Iraqi politician Ahmed Chalabi appears to have suffered a humiliating defeat at the recent Iraq polls, according to the uncertified preliminary results.

The news comes just a month after Chalabi had conducted a tour of Washington in an effort to patch up his tattered image in America. Paperwork shows that in November Chalabi's Washington representative hired a powerful D.C. lobbying firm.

The election results in Iraq may present Chalabi's ardent U.S. supporters with a quandary: Chalabi, as well as other losing candidates, is alleging fraud in the election, even though the Bush administration hailed the vote as a historic step for democracy in Iraq.

Monday, December 26, 2005 2:20:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

"the creation of the first Islamist state in the Arab world."

Yeah, just like Bush created the first Christian state in the Western world.

I'd agree if the qualifier "perverted version of the" was put in front of "Islamist" and "Christian".

Monday, December 26, 2005 5:18:00 pm  
Blogger orang said...

(don't worry) We're going to uh, stay the course until the Iraqis can uh, step up and keep Iraq safe for .....US!

Monday, December 26, 2005 6:55:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Don't you just hate democracy and the will of the people?

Monday, December 26, 2005 10:43:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
Don't you just hate democracy and the will of the people?

Not particularly. And hey Ibby, how do you think the new improved Israeli Labor Party will go in the up-coming elections?

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:32:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

I've never heard of the New Improved Labor Party.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:03:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Nice evasion Ibraham. However, the bind is that Chalabi (and others) are alleging widespread election fraud. Therefore the neocon supporters
of Chalabi can either agree and consider
the election illegitimate, or they can
state Chalabi is a lying opportunist.

There are incidents such as that below
that lend credence to the claims of
voter fraud and violent intimidation-

from yahoo news today:
"MOSUL - The body of Qusay Salahaddin, president of the Students Union of Mosul University, was found shot dead two days after he was abducted by gunmen, the Students Union said. On Dec. 21 he led a demonstration on the campus complaining of alleged fraud in last week's parliamentary election."

Furthermore, a simple vote does not a viable democracy make. The great majority of Shiites, and some Sunnis, were told who to vote for by their clerics. If one simply contextualizes it, the voting seems like
a fabulous development. However, reality is already clashing with abstract ideals.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:08:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

No one ever said that Iraq will be a 'viable' democracy within the next 20 years.

But they have the vote and they are electing their rulers.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 7:16:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

It would be ironic, wouldn't it, if a democratic process installed a theocratic system which itself then removed democracy.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:04:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Not ironic. Not the first time an elected government became an actual dictatorship. Witness nazi germany.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:18:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

The workings of Nazi Germanyu were largely an intrnal phenomenon. Ironic in the sense that "democracy" was imposed on Iraq. It would be one of the few times we've witnessed it imposed by an external force.

It would also be ironic because the US has been so much more successful this past century at removing democracies than installing them.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 9:28:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Lumping together everything done by the US over the last 105 years is ridiculous.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:15:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

I was thnking more in terms of the last 50 years actually.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 10:42:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


It is actually the moral narcissistic western bourgeois left who is experiencing the nightmare as Islamic nations emerge from centuries of ignorance and poverty and start tasting the fruits of the european enlightenment and the Anglosphere's liberal democracy.

From Indonesia to Malaysia to Iraq to Libya and next to Iran, Afghanistan, and onwward the West continues its triumphant strut.

It must suck being you.

Poor dear.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:06:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Oh Neo,

You come up with the best jokes. West continues it's triumphant strut. Look a lot more to me like a blind man negotiating Harvy Norman during a Boxing Day sale.

You just can't seem to get your head around the headlines can you sweetie?

Do you honestly believe that Afghanistan is in the clear by any stretch of the imagination? What future do you think democracy has in Iraq if it becomes a theocracy? Indonesia has always been essentially a one party state and will remain so. Libya has doen what exactly in moving towards democracy?

Yes, it can be hard to read and think at the same time. Keep practicing with waling and chewing gum You'll get there.

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:19:00 pm  
Blogger orang said...

"triumphant strut"

- I love it. It's great, imagery, "attitude"...However, I don't see it as applicable in this case.

How about shambling shuffle?

Tuesday, December 27, 2005 5:23:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

"How about shambling shuffle?"

Off the end of a jetty...

Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:32:00 am  

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