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Thursday, December 08, 2005

Welcome trouble is brewing

AIPAC is the leading Zionist lobby in the US, buying congressional support through financial largesse, intimidating any opposition and supporting a hardline Israel-first policy for the US administration. It has, however, recently run into some legal issues:

"The AIPAC espionage scandal refers to allegations that information regarding United States policy towards Iran was passed to Israel through the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. Larry Franklin, a former Defence Department employee, has pled guilty to several espionage-related charges. Two former AIPAC employees have been indicted as well.

"The investigation and prosecutions, which began in 1999, have attracted attention because critics of U.S. Israeli policy have long claimed AIPAC has served as a conduit for Israel’s intelligence gathering efforts with near impunity due to its powerful connections in Washington. Franklin's indictment mentioned but did not name several foreign diplomats, widely believed to be Israeli, as being involved with his efforts."

The case has received relatively little media coverage in the US and Australia. A new piece in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs continues the investigation and reveals that AIPAC is worried its influence in Washington may be waning. Furthermore, virtually every US administration is in thrall to the Jewish state, but the Bush administration takes this love affair to new levels of incestousness.

Certain members of the Bush cabinet arguably saw their first priority as Israel, and the US second. Such attitudes helped convince key decision makers that invading Iraq would be good for Israel. Sadly, the greatest beneficiary of the war has been Iran, and now Likud wannabe, former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is calling for strikes against Iran's suspected nuclear facilities.

Zionists should be very pleased with their handiwork over the last years.


Blogger Nu-Ju said...

I'm not sure if you should be using the word zionist to mean an unquestioning defender of Israel and the occupation. Surely a Zionist can simply mean one who supports the state of Israel as i assume you do , since you support a 2 state solution unless i'm mistaken.

Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:07:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Actually, ideally, a one-state solution is the most ideal model, in my view. A truly bi-national state.
However, two-states, living side by side, is the most likely outcome in the coming years. Maybe.

Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:13:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Is it really any of your business? Who the hell are you to tell the Israelis to extinguish their country?

Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:35:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Yes Anthony, don't you know that only when it comes to Israel, are we to observe the notion onf national sovereignty.

And how dare you use your own blog to express your views? Outrageous!

Friday, December 09, 2005 12:20:00 am  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

wait a minute - the UN recently failed to condemn the recent deplorable terroist attack in Netanya, all because Muslim countries and lobby groups in the general assembly stopped such a condemnation from happening. And its not the first time such a thing has occurred.

Instead of condeming the recent atrocity in Israel, the UN is busy condeming a freaking cartoon published in a mainstream newspaper Denmark! A cartoon damn it! And why? Because this cartoon was suppossdly offensive to Muslims because it had an image of Mohammed. So now with the intense lobbying of oil rich muslim nations and lobby groups, the UN is engaging in an act of censorship - something which you Lowey would probably disagree with since you always harp on about "freedom of the press."

And all you choose to talk about is sinister and powerful Jewish lobby groups - whose activities dont even harm US national security (as if you cared about US national security) or any other country bar those who wish to wipe Israel off the map?

Friday, December 09, 2005 1:03:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

"whose activities dont even harm US national security"

Which is why they conducted an 2 year FBI investigation into AIPAC. What "metrics" do ytou have to suggest there has been no harn to US national security?

When Israel conducts clandestine activities in other countries, it usually involves come dirt, otherwise there woudl be no reason fo rhte secrecy or the automatic denials by israeli officials when agents get caught, would there?

I agree that the UN has been spineless in not condemming the suicide bombings in Netanya though.

Friday, December 09, 2005 1:41:00 am  
Blogger Comical_Ali said...

They conducted a 2 year FBI investigation, because classified documents were compromised. But I'm yet to see evidence that the compromise of these particular documents would harm US national security - documents on Israel's own secuity which the US, as an ally, is obliged to hand over.

And if the "all powerful" Jewish lobby was indeed so "powerful" - as Flavious Lowy & other dhimmiwitted ignorant moonbats make them out to be - than the US administration would not be hiding these documents in the first place and there would not be a big two year FBI investigation with a media circus in toe. Neither would Jonathan Pollard be rotting away in a prison cell for life (I believe he has been in prison longer than Vanunu - who happens to be on Antsky's "sponsor a dissident list").

But in stark contrast there is another lobby group in the US, whose activities do harm that countries national security. That group happens to be CARE - the main American Islamic lobby group. Some of Its members have been indicted with terrorism charges and the activities of that organisation included the "charity" and funding of terrorist organisations - all organisations which harmed or have the intention of harming US citizens.

But in the world of Jihadists and their dhimmiwitted sympathisers, there is only one sinister lobby group - or better still one group of people who have no right to lobby on behalf of their own interests. They charge it to be an all "powerful group" - never mind that this group has no control over the world's oil flow, no sway in the UN and cant even bust Pollard out of jail.

Friday, December 09, 2005 10:23:00 am  
Blogger Glenn Condell said...

It's bubbling away under the surface but the cowed Western media won't be able to ignore it if it keeps going to expose the creators of the dummy intel which they used to lie us into an illegal war which has killed over a hundred thousand innocent people. Some serious shit will hit the fan then.

If it turns out Feith arranged it thru Mossad as many believe, look out. The honeymoon could well be over.

I also wonder whether the systemic intimidation and bribery of politicians practised by AIPAC had any connection to the systemic rorting and bribery of politicians conducted by Jack Abramoff, a good friend of both Feith and ex-AIPAC director Keith Weissman. Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall when they have a chinwag.

Interesting times for wingnut Zionists to be sure.

Friday, December 09, 2005 12:13:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Under what statute or agreement is the US obliged to hand over anything? Do you honestly believe that Israel hands over all it's sensistive docuemnts to the US? Israel and the US are two different countries and what's good for one is not always in the interests fo the other. Take the arms deals that Israel has entered into with China and Venezuela for example, both of which incurred the wrath of Washington.

As for indictements on terrorism charges, we have seen this week how pathetic many of these have turned out to be. The fundraising and charity charges have largely been bogus or thrown out. The US Government recorded 20,000 hours of Al-Arian's telephone conversations among other things and were not able to present ONE conversation about terrorism.

What was Al-Arian's defense after the government presented FIVE MONTHS worth of "evidence" against him? "On behalf of Dr. Al-Arian, the defense rests." That was the ENTIRETY of the defences case.

It's laughable and totally miopic for you to suggest that Israel is denied the right to lobby on behalf of their own interests. AIPAC has been described as the seond most poweful lobby group in Washinton. AIPAC conferences are always attended by high ranking politicos. The last one was attended by Condi Rice and Nancy Pelosi.

As for control over the world's oil flow, even the US doesn't control it entirely. Anyway, there are plans under way to construct a pipeline to Haifa from Mosul.

The UN still pretends to erpresent the interests of more than just th US and company. Even the dimmiwitted sympathisers haven't suggested that AIPAC has that much reach.

Friday, December 09, 2005 12:17:00 pm  
Blogger Nu-Ju said...

You missed my point, even if one does believe in a 2 state solution and is a theoretical supporter of Israel, it means one is a Zionist. I'm not entirely sure myself but i think i would classify myself as a Zionist although i am opposed to the occupation and the racist laws of Israel, in this sense it is offensive to say that Zionists are responsible for any move towards bombing Iran etc. it seems Zionist is an easy label to call these people but in my opinion maybe an inaccurate one.

Friday, December 09, 2005 9:58:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Ever since the state of Israel was won fair and square by Jews defeating Nazi Arabs who tried to throw the Jews into the sea, and then that state was acknowledged by the world in 1949, a "Zionist" has meant nothing more than a person who supports the right of the legitimate state of Israel to exist.

To be an anti-Zionist, therefore, means that one is either an anti-semite or an Islamo-Nazi or both.

I hope this helps.

Friday, December 09, 2005 10:34:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

"To be an anti-Zionist, therefore, means that one is either an anti-semite or an Islamo-Nazi or both."

How hilariously clueless. So the millions of Jews who oppose the Jewish state, and the non-Jews too, are all Jew haters?

Right, now I know where I stand!

Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:44:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Self-loathing is a very human trait you know. Both Marx and Trotsky were excellent former Jews who were anti-semitic.

I can't see any contradiction in a white european, such as yourself, being anti-semitic.

I am interested to know how you can oppose the democratically-elected Jewish state and not be a Jew hater.

Saturday, December 10, 2005 10:53:00 am  
Blogger Nu-Ju said...

I can understand this, simply the concept of a 'jewish' state like a 'muslim' or 'white' state neccessitates a degree of racism. Israel as a racist state should be objected to by anyone who is an anti-racist, however a jewish homeland in palestine should not be objected to out of hand in my opinion.

Saturday, December 10, 2005 1:25:00 pm  

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