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Monday, October 31, 2005

Our leaders lie

Robert Fisk examines the rhetoric of Bush, Blair, Iran...and Australia:

" But for Bush, America is not anxious to withdraw from Iraq. Far from it. The United States is fighting enemies who want to establish a "totalitarian empire", he says, a "mortal danger to all humanity" which America will confront. Washington is fighting "as brutal an enemy as we have ever faced". Come again? What about Hitler's Nazi Germany? Mussolini's fascist Italy? The cruel, expansionist Japanese empire which bombed Pearl Harbour in 1941?

"In Australia a couple of weeks ago, I found Muslims in Melbourne and Adelaide regaling me with stories of abuse and obscenities in the street. New laws are about to be introduced by Prime Minister John Howard to counter "terror" which will not only allow detention without trial, but also the extension of "sedition" laws which could be used against those (mainly Muslims, of course) who oppose Australia's preposterous military involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"Well, count me in, John. I think you live in a great country with great people, but I'm planning to turn up in Adelaide again in the spring to argue against any Western involvement in those two countries, including yours. I look forward to a sedition charge. And to Lord Blair "doing something" against North Korea. I hope Mr Bush never does discover enemies worse than the Wehrmacht and the SS. And I sincerely trust that the little satraps of the religious neocrocracy that is Iran will grow up in the years to come. Alas. Like Peter Pan, our leaders wish to be forever young, forever childish, and forever ready to play in their bloodless sandpits - at our expense."


Blogger Shabadoo said...

Puh-LEEZE!!! Abuse and obscenities? I'd like to see his notes on this conversation.

That Fisk opposed the toppling of the Taliban proves that himself, and the leftists that follow him, believe that there is only one acceptable position for the West: perpetually supine.

Monday, October 31, 2005 10:24:00 am  
Blogger Nu-Ju said...

What australia are you living in mr shabadoo? You don't believe that many muslims have been both physically and verbally abused in the street post september 11 ?

Monday, October 31, 2005 11:23:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

He lives in an Australia where he wishes Muslims were either absent...or silent.
After all, Western culture - whatever the hell that is - is far superior to, well, everything and everybody.

Monday, October 31, 2005 11:35:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

I wonder if Howard still holidays in that cheap trailer park called Hawks Nest?

Monday, October 31, 2005 1:25:00 pm  
Blogger boredinHK said...

I live in Hong Kong and here the chinese wish all foreigners would sod off!.
And not just sod off but disappear - not in a horrible painful end of life way but just go away so the beauty and wonder of organised chinese society can get on with being itself.
Most chinese I speak with are aware of migration - the chinese being traders and migrants for 1000's of years but those movements are based on trade and improving their financial station.
They don't go to London to become british .
As a group they understand being taunted , vilified and while they resent such treatment, they do exactly the same thing to others who come to greater china.
The question they ask is why do foreigners want to come here anyway ?
Do muslims go to Australia to become australian or to improve their financial position ?
As migrants from places where the inhabitants themselves vilify the outsider why are they surprised when they receive the same treatment they would give others in their home ? The Koran is used to justify various forms of segregation , discrimination against women , slaves and non believers to start.

Monday, October 31, 2005 2:11:00 pm  
Blogger anthony said...

After all, Western culture - whatever the hell that is - is far superior to, well, everything and everybody

You don’t know what Western culture is Loewenstein? You seem to attack it often enough.

And yes, your right Western culture is superior. At first I thought you were being sarcastic, then I realised you certainly weren’t saying that the illiberal, un-secular and authoritarian Middle Eastern culture is better than the West.

Tuesday, November 01, 2005 4:27:00 pm  

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