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Thursday, October 27, 2005

Fresh bigotry

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.

Worldwide condemnation for the comments has been swift. Canada's Foreign Affairs Minister said he wanted to "vigorously condemn the remarks made by Iran's president. We are in the 21st century. Canada will never accept such hatred, intolerance and anti-Semitism. Never."

The comments should be condemned in the strongest possible terms. They are anti-Semitic, vicious, counterproductive and immoral.

22 Comments:

Blogger Human said...

I second your comments Antony. What does he think this gains? Who was he trying to convince? Is he another who mantains power by fear and hate? Are they really gearing up for an offensive War or is this to rouse the masses for a War to come to them? The man is anything but stupid, so this was a calculated statement.
BTW- you are now linked on my blog.
Peace. your fellow Human

Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:41:00 am  
Blogger Pete said...

To threaten to wipe out any country is disgusting.

A few points.

Iran's leaders enjoy a fare bit of popular support (usual human rights oppression aside) giving their crazed views more significance.

When added to its nuclear program this makes Iran a considerable threat to stability in the region - though not on a par with Israel.

Unlike Israel, Iran can expect some retribution from the US - perhaps as a US "smokescreen" in connection with a embarassing partial US withdrawal from Iraq.

A US (or perhaps Israeli) air or cruise missile strike on Iran's nuclear development infrastructure is a most likely scenerio I see within the next 2-3 years.

Israel's aerial bombing of an Iraqi reactor in June 1981 is a precedent in the region.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:43:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Such rhetoric isn't unusual from Iran...though it's mostly bluster, frankly. The idea that Iran would invade or bomb Israel seems irrational. Retaliation would be swift...and they're not stupid.
Expect international pressure to build on Iran...as the powers that be try and avoid discussing the Iraq disaster.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:50:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Nope. Who knows if we will...
Howard is too busy patronising the Pacific islands and Downer is, well, who really cares what he's doing. Apart from inspiring us all, of course.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:33:00 pm  
Blogger Pete said...

Nobody's saying "Iran would invade or bomb Israel."

A Shia Iran that says we may have (or almost have) the bomb would scare Israel and Sunni states around the region. In particular Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE.

The spectre of emboldened Shias saying we have the bomb and the remote (but significant) possibility that a future Iranian bomb could be bought by other Muslim states or big time terrorists (bin Laden) should be a worry.

All the ex-Soviet nuclear weapons rusting away and current Pakistani ones are also a worry.

If bin Laden (or similar terrorists) is alive and still has cash and connections its possible he could nuclear bomb Israel, in future, in a massive type of suicide bombing.

Who would Israel strike back at then with its nuclear weapons? And would it be the type of glorius Armeggedon bin Laden is aiming for?

Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:38:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

"And would it be the type of glorius Armeggedon bin Laden is aiming for?

And Bush and Pat Robertson?

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:07:00 pm  
Blogger Pete said...

Human

Well Bush, bless his soul, has a country (US) and empire to look after.

So notwithstanding his cute, but deadly, form of religious fundamentalism he has real estate interests.

Bin Laden has no real estate but a cause. He has less worldly goods to lose.

An nuclear assault on bin Laden (that kills many Muslims) would boost the type of Muslim-Christian struggle that he has sacrificed his life for (well he's centainly sacrificed many other peoples lives).

Bin Laden is certainly not the type of chap of a discerning girl would wish to marry.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 1:26:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

No state should have nukes. If you can't understand how smaller nations see the US/Israel/India et al and want them too, well, it's called leading by example.
And yes, the US is far from dangerous than Iran could ever hope to be.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 2:55:00 pm  
Blogger Gibbo said...

Your kidding Mariyani, anyone who wears a purple suit and a fez to work can't ever be taken seriously. And you have the stones to laugh at Downer? Hahaha.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:32:00 pm  
Blogger Iqbal Khaldun said...

Ahmedjinad's comments make fine fodder for Israel and the US. But I don't think their just vacant stirrings. No, Iran doesn't dream of attacking Israel. I think the real target is the domestic audience. What will be interesting to observe is whether, like the fundos in Pakistan, his bluster masks more moderate, politically expedient motivations. The Mullahs created him, and deep down the Mullahs know their grip on Iran, as it slowly modernises, is beginning to look less sustainable. Unless, of course, they can inspire fear of 'the other' within the general population.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 7:18:00 pm  
Blogger Gibbo said...

Edward, you say tomarto I say tomayto...
It's still a silly hat where I come from.

Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:24:00 pm  
Blogger Chief Bastard said...

Excuses excuses. Here's a thought for the rationalisers.

He means it.

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:14:00 am  
Blogger Human said...

Pat Robertson during the ground advance into Iraq 2003, "This is a WAr against Islam" Bush "WE are on a Crusade". Benny Hinn, "The whore of Babylon must be destroyed for the Temple to be rebuilt."

To see the strong connections of fanantics like Bush and Bin Laden watch the 3 vids found here -
http://marc.perkel.com/archives/000753.html

3 1 hour docs by the BBC made in 2004
I found the vids asounding.
Peace. Your fellow Human

Friday, October 28, 2005 1:06:00 am  
Blogger psydoc said...

Well Ant, maybe you could explain why the UN secretary general was only "dismayed" at this shocking statement.

Given the fact that there were deaths that followed by groups sponsored by Iran, surely it is now time to warm up those fighter jets to support the ongoing existence of Israel. You wouldn't have a problem with Israel defending herself would you Ant?

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:01:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

In Israel's typically overblown way? Actually, yes, that's not OK and the world will no longer accept such behaviour. Fancy an Iran invasion? Bombing somewhere in their country?
You're right, in that region, some more bombing will certainly increase the peace.

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:04:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

Well doc, maybe you could explain why the U.S. pResident called mass murderer Israeli PM "a man of peace".?

Given the fact Sharon is responsible for the deaths of thousands of women and children, surely it is time to warm up to the idea of a better leader?

I see that on your blog you have a link to little green fools. They take great joy in calling Cindy Sheehan "Mama Moonbat"
and the vigils that were held across America "Death Parties". Your one sick doc, doc. oh yeah, Merry Fitzmas

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:48:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

Addamo and dbo-thanks for the kudos.
Merry Fitzmas! ;)

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:53:00 pm  
Blogger psydoc said...

well maybe, just maybe (in)human, the US president has slightly better judgement than you.

I could be wrong here, but unless you are Al Gore (and from the boredom factor you may actually be) you may not have actually had anyone express confidence in you and your opinions. And we should not count Ant, as he needs your hits.

Note the typical way that radical leftists like yourself and Dreamboat cannot bring themselves to criticise the UN. Even in a discussion about a country threatening to wipe the Jewish state off the map, you talk about Sharon? Shame on you.

Friday, October 28, 2005 12:59:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

You got to be kidding me doc. You been taking your own scripts again? Look at the top of page and previous posting pal.
"If I'm called a Fascist in defense of Israel, so be it." Ariel "baby killer" Sharon. Shame on you doc. With a doc like you, Fascists have replaced Mengele.

Friday, October 28, 2005 1:09:00 pm  
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Friday, October 28, 2005 2:00:00 pm  
Blogger psydoc said...

Well, I hope Ant that you are now satisfied that you have people referring to Jewish doctors as Mengele. Its the oldest trick in the book to use Nazi symbolism to attack Jews.

Ant, do you encourage such people for your impending book sales? Are you sure its worth it?

Friday, October 28, 2005 2:02:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

No. Just 1 doctor. you. Just by your use of the plural, shows what a persucution complex you have. Antony(that is his name) is very openminded here. He after all let's your crap be posted here. A stronger link of guilt by association is your link to little green fools. If it wasn't for that, I might of actually of tried to comm. w/u in a gentlemanly way, however Sharonists, just like people who send out suicide bombers will never have any validity me.
Merry Fitzmas.

Friday, October 28, 2005 2:19:00 pm  

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