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Wednesday, October 19, 2005

We don't want them

Islamophobe Daniel Pipes warns of a "looming immigration problem" in Europe. He outlines tactics employed by "illegals" to enter the continent but fails to wonder why they want to come in the first place.

"...It is probably only a matter of time until other Western states follow Spain and Australia and resort to military force", he writes.

Pipes' dislikes cultures that will seemingly infect the perfection of Western civilisation. He's a bigot and ignoramus given cachet by a gullible media. For that reason, he's in great demand in the West but shunned throughout the rest of the world.

Until Pipes and his fellow travellers acknowledge the ever-growing refugee crisis - and reasons behind it - the vicious cycle will continue.

I've long thought a clash of civilisations is imminent: First world vs. Third World. Why should we keep all the spoils for ourselves?


Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Fails to wonder why Islamists and Islamics want to enter western democracies where they are free to do anything they want after a lifetime under brutal regimes?

Surely you've lost your mind Loewenstein.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:50:00 am  
Blogger Human said...

When America and other Nations cease to have slave states by proxy, encourage Democracy, stop exporting death and destruction and seek peaceful means to evolve Humanity to a higher degree, then just maybe it will be a more prosperous World for all.
Peace. Your fellow Human

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:10:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Since it is only a just maybe, why bother?

You statement lacks any actual facts. Just your hate-mongering assumptions.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:28:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

ibrahamav - You are a very sick person. I urge you to get professional help as soon as possible.

Some links to help you
Peace. Your Fellow Human

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 12:34:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...


You need to learn some humility mate. The spite in you just pours out like a sieve.

You are particularly prone to making platitudes but as for facts, well, let's just say you're big on improvisation.


Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:02:00 pm  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

You know, there are real reasons why the West has the 'spoils' as you call them: rule of law, property rights (and not treating women as property), democracy, free speech...the easy elements to a free and prosperous society.

Ant, why are you so unwilling to look at cultural defects in other areas besides the West?

In any case, Anty's nostalgie pour la boue agenda is revealed here in all its glory.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:09:00 pm  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

p.s. in the old Soviet Union, one of their favourite ways to discredit dissidents was to declare them mentally ill.

Nice going, my fellow human.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:10:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Sorry to see that you claim him. I would not be so bold.

Addamo and Huwhat are symptoms of what is wrong with society. The blessing and curse of a free society is that we must bear the rantings of those fools.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:15:00 pm  
Blogger Shay said...

First world vs Third world... anyone got any idea where this numbering system came from in the first place? I was just wondering whether anyone knew any Second World countries......

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 3:43:00 pm  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

Shay: In the Cold War the 'second world' was generally thought of as the Communist/Soviet sphere of influence...industrialized but unfree, with the populations kept in virtual slavery to the state.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:03:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...


Well, I guess being called a fool is a step up from being accused of anti-semitism.

Good to see you expanding your range. Stick with it, you might learn some social skills in the process.

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:59:00 pm  
Blogger James Waterton said...

"Why should we keep all the spoils for ourselves?"

Not only is that statement simplistic and ill-conceived, it's also tinkering with a rather dangerous ideology that caused tens - perhaps hundreds - of millions of deaths in the 20th century. Is that wise, Antony, even for you?

Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:51:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...


Just a note re your piece on Iran. Thanks for taking the time. I enjoy reading what you have to say when I'm in a less combative frame of mind.


Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:14:00 am  
Blogger James Waterton said...

Sorry - it was rather long-winded. Didn't realise how much I'd banged on until I reviewed it at the end.

If you're interested, here's what I'm currently thinking about the West's ME policy, and what I think should be done. You may be a little surprised.


Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:20:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Holy shit, you have you're own blog? Man you rock!! I look forward to reading it. How often do you post? Where in God's name do yuo find the time?

BTW. I didn't thin your comments were long winded, certainly not by my verbose standards anyway. Somehow we managed to include a lo of points.

Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:23:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Just read your blog piece James. You are right, I am more than a little surprised. I will have to go back and have another peruse though, since it's an elaborate work. I knew you wer to intelligent to be a out and out hawk - and I mean that as a compliment. ;-)

Have you read or heard of John Perkin's book "Confession of an Economic Hitman"? It's a pretty remarkable account of how the IMF and US mlti-nationjals have driven poor bu totherwise resource rich country to debt, especially seeing as it's from an insider. Seeing as you mention the unsavouray bedfellows the US has made, the book shed much light on the mechanisms that drove this. Though I suspect, it might be a tad sentimental for your liking.

Friday, October 21, 2005 12:47:00 pm  

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