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Monday, November 28, 2005

Caution noted

Peter Rodgers is a former Australian ambassador to Israel and author of the incisive book, Herzl's Nightmare. Unlike much of the international media, keen to salivate over Ariel Sharon and his "peace process", Rodgers rightly issues caution:

"And what of Sharon's political makeover? Has he really accepted that Israel's best chance for future security lies in the creation of a viable Palestinian state? He won international praise for his mid-2005 withdrawal of Israeli settlers from Gaza. Not surprisingly, this move was portrayed as a painful concession by Israel to the Palestinians.

"In reality the winner was Israel itself, which continues to exercise a veto over everyday Gazan life without having to risk too many Israeli lives."

The Palestinians have their own problems, too. Internal division, Hamas as a political force and the ongoing occupation.

14 Comments:

Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Israel realizes that the only chance for security is complete divorce from the Palestinian people, sort of a restraint order against the Palestinians.

The best way to do this is expell all non-citizen palestinians and complete the wall. Then leave the Palestinas to their own devices. Perhaps the Europeans will rescue them.

Monday, November 28, 2005 2:54:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

What a great idea!
Israel will be a Jewish-only state, with no Palestinians or Arabs at all?
Now, I'm a little confused. Havn't some others tried something similiar in the past?

Monday, November 28, 2005 3:01:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Sadly, Israel did support apartheid South Africa, with a handful of other rogue states.

Monday, November 28, 2005 3:24:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Smearing Said. Anything else in that veritable bag of tricks?

Monday, November 28, 2005 10:00:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Funny how antony equates deporting non-citizens with Israel being arabrein. I though only antisemites used that means to confuse the issue.

There are 1.2 million or so Arab citizens of Israel who are not Jewish. There are another 2 million or more Arab citizens in Israel who are Jewish. In fact, it could be said that israel is now an Arab state.

So your question was designed to make what statement?

As for South Africa, I wondered why Tutu and mandela lie so much about Israel. Now I know, they are so pissed off they are willing to do anything immoral to get even.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:23:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

I don't doubt that you lack understanding.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 2:08:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Good one mannie, it was so clever. Joining addamo's ass licking society?

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 12:05:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Your alliance to a fellow antisemitic dillitante is what you meant to write, but just couldn't think of it fast enough, could you.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 1:16:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

As if you knew how one spoke.

Go back to school. Get some real credentials. Your credibility is shot. Your jsut a school boy who blew his wad and your all out.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 2:42:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Glad to see you finally admitted the truth. Don't you feel better now?

You want to know my credentials? Why? There is no way for you to check them. And you're not that important enough for me to brag.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:04:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Since Israel doesn't have an apartheid state, seeing that 1.2 million islamiic arabs are full voting and participating citizens and that 10% of the Israeli governing body is Arab Islamic, it must be concluded that Manny doesn't know what he is talking about.

While Mandela comes out cleaner because of his extensive time in prison preventing him from taking part in all of the areas of corruption available to most politicians, and Tutu's religious background prevented him from those same influences, it did not prevent them from developing a desire to take revenge on those who sided with their enemies.

Their morality only goes so far.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 6:46:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

They have demonstrated their hostility towards those that sided with their enemies.

Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:03:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Lefty, I think you worded it incorrectly but I understand what your concern is.

In all fairness, the situation in South Africa has almost nothing in common with Israel. It is just a ploy used by pro-palestinians as a way to embarrass the pro-israel groups.

Israel allied itself militarily and economically with South Africa while SA, morally, should have been, and was, repugnant to almost all Jews and israelis.

All comparrisons between the two are merely skin deep. This type propaganda is mostly of the bait type. Trying to get a reaction.

Friday, December 02, 2005 4:18:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

My opinion of you is right, regardless of the land it is in.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 1:58:00 am  

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