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Friday, November 11, 2005

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- Israelis were evacuated hours before the Jordan blasts.

- "The destruction of Fallujah was an act of barbarism that ranks alongside My Lai, Guernica and Halabja."

- For a change, Age commentator Tony Parkinson praises the Australian "political class" for its toughness on terrorism. Parkinson is incapable of thinking any other way. He is, like the vast majority of supposed elder statesmen of the commentariat, professionally incapable of existing without establishment acceptance. Such is their bravery.

- Andrew Sullivan continues his campaign to end torture of detainees in America's gulags around the world.

- The prisoners of Abu Ghraib speak.

- Alan Dershowitz continues defending Israeli war crimes.

- The CIA warns that Syria is harbouring more than 15 million known Arabs.


Blogger Wombat said...

Since when does harbouring 15 million Arabs amount to a crime? This article is from 2003, has there been reference to it since?

As for Dershowitz, he counds like he's seriosuly losing it. You gotta know you're on shaky ground when you are on arguing with IAF pilots.

Friday, November 11, 2005 10:40:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

It's the Onion, a joke, though for many, any Arab is a potential threat. Sound familiar?
As for Dershowitz, he's a fraud and happy to share dinners with Ariel Sharon, so his position is pretty clear.

Friday, November 11, 2005 10:44:00 am  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

We are of course talking about the destruction of Fallujah that took place when the mullahs and the crackpots turned into Taliban-town, right?

The only thing the Yanks did wrong there was not roll in first thing and give those nutters a chance to dig in.

Friday, November 11, 2005 1:27:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

The killing of hundreds, maybe thousands, of civilians is clearly irrelevant, because they're Arabs?
Dabadick, your ability to justify war crimes would be hilarious if it weren't so clueless.

Friday, November 11, 2005 1:31:00 pm  
Blogger orang said...

Anyone remember when Dershowitz visited Oz (a couple of years ago?)and was interviewed on Telly. He was spouting on about legalising torture (only the humane kind you understand) so that "we" (Israel already doing it, US about to be exposed for doing it, so let's legalise it so we can be on morally high ground) could get timely information in case of an imminent terror attack.

The interviewer repeated to him what he was advocating in such withering fashion that the fuck was speechless. I thought it a good interview.

Friday, November 11, 2005 2:21:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

I do remember that interview.
Dershowitz is still a big supporter of torture. The fact that evidence shows it's nearly always useless, let alone immoral, doesn't bother the esteemed Harvard prof.

Friday, November 11, 2005 2:30:00 pm  
Blogger smiths said...

not only were israelis evacuated but the head of palestinian military intelligence was killed in the blasts and at least one bomb was in the ceiling of the room where it exploded
and for all those feeling theres not quite enough of a smell to this story alreday,
youre old mate abu musab al-zarqawi was responsible,
well of course he was
or one of his most trusted leutenants,
(never had to spell that word before, sure its wrong)

Friday, November 11, 2005 2:54:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Seems antony is taking to posting nonsense. Doesn't seem to be anything about fink's complaint. What exactly what fink whining about? And what exactly is antony whining about? That his parents took away an "h"?

Friday, November 11, 2005 3:37:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

Yeah Israeli's dissapeared right before the attacks in NY, the London Tube bombings and now this. If ya want to protect yourself abroad just stay where the Isrealis stay.
Orang - Can you provide a link or 2 on the head of Pal. Intell info?

Friday, November 11, 2005 3:46:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Correction, Israelis/Jews did not disappear before 9/11 or the London bombings. Urban myth.
Jordan is a different case altogether.

Friday, November 11, 2005 3:55:00 pm  
Blogger Human said...

Antony - It was widely reported on all the MSM networks that Minister Netanyau(hope I spelled it right)cancelled a movement because of a threat and that the threat was passed on to Brit. Intell. On 911 - I will dig up the links if you like. I do remember the company that was in operation at 1 of the bldgs. in NY. Urban Moving Systems. This outfit along with other mover companies and "Israeli Art Students" have either been shut down or the spies arrested and deported. I had provided the links before on a previous thread(when dabadick asked for them).

Let me make myself clear. Mossad controls COMM in the USA and therefore can 'listen in" 'data mine" and such. I do not believe they "did it'. I just believe that they knew something about it. In all 3 cases.

Friday, November 11, 2005 4:04:00 pm  
Blogger smiths said...,10117,17199844-23109,00.html

that one goes to the story on the death of palestinian intell chief but it is being reported very widely

just read on an intergalactic news blog that the army base of the 'mydydgo' people of saturns last moon has been bombed,
al quada of iraq have claimed responsibility and abu musab al-zarqawi is being hunted for the crime, a bounty of 50,000 galacto's is on his head,

if i were george bush i'd be trying to recruit him with that level of success, or maybe he already did?

Friday, November 11, 2005 4:59:00 pm  
Blogger Poirot said...

Antony, I would like to know why you responded so respectfully to Human's clearly anti-semitic comments concerning the alleged ability of jews to vacate areas which subsequently become the targets of terrorist attacks. His implication was clearly that jews were in some way involved in perpetrating these attacks. I feel that had a right-winger made such a plainly racist and factually wrong comment, you would have responded much more witheringly.


Friday, November 11, 2005 9:56:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

He responded respectfully because he is antisemitic in his own right. And since that is the group that he panders to, he must keep his bread butter-side up.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:21:00 am  
Blogger Human said...

poirot - Hardly factually wrong - London -

Massive Israeli spying on U.S. -

5 Israelis filmed 911 attacks -

Communication workers forewarned -

Listening in -

For a history of AMDOCS control of Comm. worldwide just google "amdocs".

AP 1st reported that the Israeli's knew something was up before the tube bombings. The report was passed on to various news sources. The Israeli Embassy later denied it.

Antony responds respectfully because he is a gentlemen. I have responded respectfully even though you have labeled me an anti-semite. What I want to know is are you going to click on the links or are you like shab and think you carry the stone of truth in your pocket?

I do now consider Israeli knowledge of the tube bombing up to debate. As for my other claims, they are pretty solid.

Since I have not commed w/you before and you jump to labels let me inform you of my view on the Bloody Land - There is not one moral high ground anybody can lay claim to in the Bloody Land. The brutality upon the innocents both Jewish and Palestinian is immoral and just plain wrong. There are many forces on both sides who very being relies upon continuing the conflict. Until the Israeli and Palestinian people come to know that fact, all efforts at Peace will be futile.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:24:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Human, like Addamo, has been rightfully outted as an antisemite, so there really is no need to listen to his whine.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 5:16:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Outed me? Never. You'll never take me alive.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 5:38:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Thank God. Who would want you alive? Certainly no sane person. Zundel would want you alive.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:48:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Way to go ibraham. You just can't help spreading brotherly love can you?

Maybe one day a secret report will be declassified that will give us the name of the failed lab experiment that produced you.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 7:59:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

ever wondered if calling everybody an anti-semite might, just might, weaken your argument?
Just a thought...

Saturday, November 12, 2005 12:36:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Addamo, harsh but fair. And quite funny.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 1:53:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Antony, Ever wonder why most people believe you are an antisemite?

Ever wonder why antisemites bring out that old canard "ever wondered if calling everybody an anti-semite might, just might, weaken your argument?"

It's like that other stupid saying antisemites promote "All zionists consider all criticism of Israel to be antisemitism"

It may work with the idiots you surrond your self with, but that's all.

Don't tell me - some of your best friends are Jewish.

Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:51:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
"Antony, Ever wonder why most people believe you are an antisemite?"

Ibrahamav, ever wonder why most people think you're an anti-semite who is trying to delegitimise the word so that neo-Nazis can get away with being anti-semites?

Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:53:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Anyone keeping score of how many anti-semites on this list (according to Ibraham)?

Hate to break it to you my friend, but yes, I have a number of close Jewish friends, one of whom's son happen to be a godfather.

You poor soul. I'm guessing that you’re paranoia is the result of many factors beyond your control. Perhaps you were victimized as a child, or might it have been a traumatic forceps delivery at the hands of an obstetrician with acute Parkinson’s? Either way, your logic resembles that of a constantly evolving pretzel. On one hand you charge me with being antisemtic due to my lack of education, then when I provide evidence to the contrary, your mental back-flip suggests that quality of education is meaningless because Nazis were also highly educated.

Perhaps it's time you had those fillings replaced.

Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:15:00 am  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Oh for fuck's sake, Ibrahamav. Just piss off, you idiot.

Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:48:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

So dirt joined the tag-teram idiots? Seemed he believes eddie and addamo, combined, are no match for Ibrahamav.

Tough shit, I say.

And as always, addamo provided nothing as evidence of his education. Surely you've had enough time with the 'buckling' quiz. Still no answer.

Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:45:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Buckling quiz? I have no idea what you are referring to.

I have no need to prove anything to you Ibraham, seeing as I haev been far more fothcomming about my credentials than you have. You have certainly not provided any evidence of your educational achievements, other than given us a large glimpse of a very disturbed childhood.

I suspect you were one of those children at school who was, shall we say, considered "dufferent"?

But you know what Ibraham, I would change a thing if I were you. As Hannibal Lecter said to Mason Verger, "I like you just the way you are".

Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:27:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

You do have a need to prove something. No one really knows what it is but most don't give a shit about a nutcase such as you.

You have been forthcoming with nothing but proof of idiocy (Since when is it a crime to harbor 15 million arabs?). Can't match you there.

Sunday, November 13, 2005 11:28:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Another perfect non-argument Ibraham.

You challenge the quality of my education .I provide examples of it, and you turn around and accuse me of needing to prove something. You are a true hit and run poster.

You should be in law. Dershowitz could certainly use your help right now, seeing as he;s making such a joke of himself.

But seriously, I rally do like you the way you are.

Monday, November 14, 2005 3:36:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

You provided nothing. You couldn't answer a simple question that someone with your credentials would know. So the credentials must be fake.

So I'm too busy laughing at your latest lie

Monday, November 14, 2005 2:23:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

I'm glad I was able to ammuse you. It was intended that way.

Ask me the question and I will answer it.

And you provided even less BTW.

Monday, November 14, 2005 2:57:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

You've had way to much time to look it up on the Internet to find out the simple equation most with degrees in nuclear engineering have at their fingertips. Especially when dealing with thermal fission.

Had you answered the question at the time it was asked, right after you presented your (what can only be termed, now, as phony) credentials, you might have had a leg to stand on.

But now you don't.

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:21:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

You are talking in riddles Ibraham. What is the quesrion you are asking me? Ask the question and I will answer it.

I have not practiced nuclear engineering in over 10 years, but go ahead and test me.

You are such a basket case.

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:29:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

The question was asked when you presented your fake credentials.

As stated before, you've had enough time to look up the answer on line so that even a drop out from his freshman year of college could understand the principles.

You failed. Ta-ta.

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:27:00 pm  

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