- Yet more evidence that Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe is bankrupt and unable to house its many displaced citizens.
- Australia's richest man, Kerry Packer, has died. Will the country's media landscape change in 2006 as a result of this news?
- The Jerusalem Post reports:
"Some 5,700 emigrants have returned to live in Israel in 2005, according to the Ministry of Immigrant Absorption. This figure represents a significant jump from the 5,000 returning citizens in 2004, and eclipses the 3,052 new immigrants from North America this year."
Many Jews clearly believe that the Jewish state is the best place to raise their families. I wonder how many of these Jews will live on occupied West Bank land.
- Josh Marshall examines John Yoo, the key lawyer involved in drafting Justice Department memos that gave George Bush almost unparalleled powers to do as he wished in the "war on terror."
- The Bush administration increases pressure on the mainstream media to not publish articles that could threaten "national security." Publish and be damned. For the US government - experts at spin and outright lies - to caution the press is a joke and should be treated with contempt. Sadly, we've already seen evidence of the cowered media in action.
Many Jews clearly believe that the Jewish state is the best place to raise their families. I wonder how many of these Jews will live on occupied West Bank land.
- Josh Marshall examines John Yoo, the key lawyer involved in drafting Justice Department memos that gave George Bush almost unparalleled powers to do as he wished in the "war on terror."
- The Bush administration increases pressure on the mainstream media to not publish articles that could threaten "national security." Publish and be damned. For the US government - experts at spin and outright lies - to caution the press is a joke and should be treated with contempt. Sadly, we've already seen evidence of the cowered media in action.
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You mean the "disputed" territories, didn't you? We wouldn't want our predjudices to get in the way of legalities, now would we?
Regardless of the infamy of the Lavon affair, ten official investigations have cleared the israelis of any evil concerning the Liberty.
It takes an antisemite to link the two together.
The US does not hold the feet of Egypt and Jordan to the fire because they signed peace treaties. Don't you ever follow the news or do you just revel in ignorance?
How do the Israeli's do it? Get caught spying for Israel - a misunderstanding - never hear of it again. Watch the twin towers get hit and cheer like its a football game - disappear, no-one saw you.
Orange- it's no surprise you need reminding- the Palestinians were cheering 'like its a football game' following 9/11, not the Israelis. I'll email you the video if you'd like.
My God, neolefty, shut up for awhile.
Who can blame them? Ah ok, its all US foreign policy. That doesn’t change the fact that Palestinian society is sick to the core (and isn’t getting any healthier), when its people celebrate an event like 9/11.
Your sites:
There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda "terrorist network" to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.
One last thing - at 09:40 a.m. on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks. This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it had always opposed "terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories."
Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the 9-11 attacks?
From here: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html.
Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people suicide against Israeli targets on a regular basis? Your right! Maybe the Jews are doing this in Israel too? The last mall bombing at Netanya, it was Mossad!
Or, these Palestinian terrorist organisations are full of terrorists who know they can get away with this shit, with gullible folk like you in the world.
After the attacks on New York and Washington, the former Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was asked what the terrorist strikes would mean for US-Israeli relations. He said: "It's very good." Then he corrected himself, adding: "Well, it's not good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel from Americans]."
Bibi clearly meant that it was good in that the Western world would finally have to recognise the danger of fundamentalist Islamic terrorism, and it would bring Israel and the US closer together. He wasn’t saying 4000+ deaths were worth such recognition, and he certainly wasn’t suggesting any Israeli involvement or attempt to allow the event to happen. It was nothing more than an unfortunate way of answering the question, seized mostly by b-grade conspiracy theorists and anti-Semites.
It's not surprising that the New Jersey housewife who first spotted the five Israelis and their white van wants to preserve her anonymity.
Of course its not surprising! Nor is it surprising she didn’t get any pictures, nor anyone else for that matter. Perhaps this woman simply doesn’t exist? That would certainly explain why this story disappeared so quickly- a lack of truth, witnesses, and evidence.
This makes it clear that there was no suggestion whatsoever from within American intelligence that the Israelis were colluding with the 9/11 hijackers---simply that the possibility remains that they knew the attacks were going to happen, but effectively did nothing to help stop them.
(The above, from here: http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column100.html)
Another link you gave says otherwise:
In August 2001, the Israelis handed over a list of terrorist suspects---on it were the names of four of the September 11 hijackers. Significantly, however, the warning said the terrorists were planning an attack “outside the United States”.
(Thats from here: http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column100.html)
As does this link:
Apparently, we were, repeatedly; for the better part of a year, we were told there would be unfriendly visitors to our skies some time in September 2001, but the government neither informed nor protected us despite Mayday warnings from Presidents Putin and Mubarak, from Mossad and even from elements of our own FBI.
(From here: http://www.venusproject.com/911/The_Enemy_Within.html - Interestingly named URL, by the way.)
Even if the Israelis said that the attack would happen outside the US (in no way was such a statement deliberately meant to ‘throw’ the US intel services) that doesn’t mean the US would simply ignore four of the listed suspects known to be coming into the US.
Summary of the article from http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3007
The Jews knew the attack was coming, only ‘Jew’ is substituted with the words ‘Zionist’ or ‘Israel’.
Orange, you citation of these claims that Israelis, and American Jews, were forewarned of the events of 9/11, and that Israeli Mossad agents danced and jumped on rooftops, is not only fanciful, it rings of the anti-Semitism of Hitler’s Europe, and much of Europe pre-Holocaust. It wasn’t Osama, it wasn’t the Arabs- it was the Jews. It is intended simply as an attack on Israel, and perhaps the West more generally.
These conspiracy theorists have taken a couple of articles, written without a hint of journalistic integrity, or sources (except for a quaint, anonymous housewife so scared of Mossad she is in hiding), or evidence, and made the case for Osama Bin Laden’s innocence- even though he has confessed on many tapes made following 9/11, and perhaps before.
Worse- all the sites you gave use the same article as the basis for their claims that these mysterious Mossad agents celebrated the 9/11 attacks, despite the training they must have undertaken in Israel, in full view of New Yorkers, and openly bragged to the police that picked them up how America would know the horrors Israelis have since 1948. Either Mossad is the poorest example of a covert espionage organisation, or the conspiracy goes so deep they knew they could get away with the crap you’ve just claimed.
I am truly sickened by your reluctance to accept that 9/11 was not a ‘Western’ event- it was the product of Islamic terrorism.
If you want to hear it from someone else, click here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_researchers#Claims_related_to_Jews_and_Israel
Or here: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=000DA0E2-1E15-128A-9E1583414B7F0000&colID=13
[...]if you type "World Trade Center" and "conspiracy" into Google, you'll get more than 250,000 hits. From these sites, you will discover that some people think the Pentagon was hit by a missile; that U.S. Air Force jets were ordered to "stand down" and not intercept Flights 11 and 175, the ones that struck the twin towers; that the towers themselves were razed by demolition explosives timed to go off soon after the impact of the planes; that a mysterious white jet shot down Flight 93 over Pennsylvania; and that New York Jews were ordered to stay home that day (Zionists and other pro-Israeli factions, of course, were involved)
That’s all I could be bothered Googling for- find other articles if you need to, or just use your common sense.
orang,
You'll notice that the Liberty incident is fully covered by every lunatic group on earth. All of the white supremist, Holocaust deniers, neo-nazis, and islamofacists sites keep it up and alive. Any wonder that the leading antisemitic groups on earth keep this up? Any wionder why you believe them?
Addamo - your querry regarding the US's failure to hold Jordan and egypt accountable for their brutal occupation was fully answered. Perhaps it was to simple for those with an antisemitic agenda.
This is the closest article in the Forward I can find on your ‘dancing’ Israelis:
http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news6.html
The possibly imaginary article in the Forward, and Le Monde, is the basis for your claim that Mossad spies were filming 9/11 (therefore knowing that the attack would target the WTC, or at least the Manhattan area, and again ringing of the anti-Semitism of centuries past).
Addamo, Orange- I realise that pointing out a lack of evidence (all this story has is the above article and a single anonymous witness) is never going to convince you, as individuals clearly willing to assume the worst of Israel and Israelis, nor is noting that an organisation such as Mossad would train their overseas spies to behave in a covert fashion. Loudly cheering and dancing following the 'Israeli's successful' filming of 9/11 is a stark contrast to the efficient assassinations following the events at Munich in 1972.
At least you’re intelligent enough to recognise that the claim Jews were warned pre-9/11 is a myth.
But how should we feel about our civilised buddies laughing and joking as 3,000 die in the twin towers? I guess we "understand", they've had a rough time...what?
(So, these Mossad agents even knew how many people died as soon as the planes hit?)
Clearly they did no such thing, at the worst, they spied within US borders on Arab suspects.
From the evidence you provided, Orange, that is the worst the Israelis could have been doing. I didn’t say they were, and I didn't say I was at all convinced.
And if it were true, I didn’t say it was OK.
Yes- Arab suspects (the PC term I should've used is Islamic extremists, apology's). Israel would hardly be looking for the next Timothy Mcveigh.
Poor mannie, so much time, so little of value to say. Perhaps you should wipe your ass more often? You'll have more friends to play with.
Did eddie, a noted antisemite, write something?
Antony, I do not vote Green.
Our noted antisemite is concerned about what?
Still no reply?
Still no actual reply?
Please, Mannie, wipe your ass more often.
I'm not certain that anyone outside of Zundel cares what eddie is convinced of.
By care I mean care. Why do you throw out so much addamo? No imagination?
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