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Wednesday, December 21, 2005

The police state beckons

Ann Beeson, associate legal director for the A.C.L.U, speaking on Bush administration attempts to monitor and criminalise dissent:

"You look at these documents, and you think, wow, we have really returned to the days of J. Edgar Hoover, when you see in F.B.I. files that they're talking about a group like the Catholic Workers league as having a communist ideology."


Blogger Shabadoo said...

Slightly but not really o/t, Anty: What do you think about the cops coming onto beach-bound busses in the eastern suburbs and demanding to see everyone's phones to check for racist text messages? Invasion of privacy or legitimate attempt to catch racists and others with verboten ideas?

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 11:39:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

On the face of it, I disapprove and think it's likely to be counter-productive. Any increased police power should be challenged. Full stop. They have far too much power as it is.

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:37:00 pm  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

My God, we actually agree on something!

Why are Australians so docile in the face of authority? This is screaming out for a "Rosa Parks"-style moment. Do they even have the legal power to do this, or are they just counting on not being challenged?

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:45:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Probably just counting on nobody taking action in the current climate. That's how the police usually get away with using excessive powers, bestowed by a govt obsessed with law and order. Well, obsessed because of the electorate, actually.

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:06:00 pm  
Blogger Shabadoo said...

This is pretty horrifying actually - Scully wants to do broad-based warrantless searches of SMS traffic.

I think everyone should just start texting each other racial slurs in protest to overload the system.

I would love to see the Australian left, which is crowing about George Bush's NSA snooping, make some serious noise about this much greater threat, much closer to home. (Hell, I'd also like to see the me-too State Opposition do the same thign!)

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:16:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

"Why are Australians so docile in the face of authority?"

Good question Shab. I also wonder why Why are Australians so docile as to the lame and lacking news services.

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 1:57:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Australians are definitely docile to have allowed the criminal Bob Hawke to foist so many Muslim serf pigs from Lebanon on to this country.

Until we ban ALL mulism immigration things will only get worse.

Just at look at the trouble they have already caused over our summer and christmas. Decent Christian Lebanese have contributed so much to this country and are a testimony to just how uncivilisaed and unacceptable Muslims are in the first world.

Why wasn't Bankstown, Lakemba, Greenacre, and Auburn locked down? Why don't they and their letter-box head sisters piss off out of here!

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:45:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

neoleftychick said...
Until we ban ALL mulism immigration things will only get worse.

Just curious. What will we do with the converts to Islam? Specoial detention centres perhaps, or just cut to the chase and reintroduce the (very economical) noose?

Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:29:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Well they can stay. After all, many Asians and Turks seem able to live in a reasonably civilised Islamic way. It is the Arab males who are the problem.

I am wondering if you understand why police have been turning a blind-eye to Lebanses Muslim crime in Sydnmey for the past 10 years?

Readers would do well by starting with Miranda Devine's piece in today's Herald on the horrifying Talopea Street Muslims. Multiculturalism indeed! More anon.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:01:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ahh, I see. You're actually quite specific about this. They have to be:

1. Arabic (presumably that means "genetically speaking"), and
2. Male.

I take it then that Arabic women, for example, are okay? And the same goes for Persian and Phoenician men and women?

Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:01:00 pm  

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