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Tuesday, December 20, 2005

The hatred within

Israeli society is riddled with hate:

"Maariv reported last week on a survey which found, not surprisingly after five gruesome years of Palestinian Arab belligerence, that topping the "most hated" list for nearly all Israelis were Palestinians. But 67 percent of leftists hated "settlers" even more than Palestinians.

"Besides settlers, the Orthodox, haredim, leftists and Arab Israelis also scored high on being despised."

Many in the Palestinian community equally hate Jews and Israelis, not least because of the brutal occupation.

There will be no peace until this hatred is eradicated or largely reduced. The current path is unlikely to achieve either.


Blogger TimT said...

Nice example of unbalanced reporting there, Ant. Slip in a reference to Israel's 'brutal occupation', but omit any allusion to suicide bombings, or the control that terrorist groups like Hamas have over Palestinian society. Veeeeeery niiiiice.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:10:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Face it, AL can't help apologizing for the accident of his birth.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:14:00 pm  
Blogger Clumsy Birds said...

Many in the Palestinian community equally hate Jews and Israelis

Palestinians hate Muslim-Israelis too? Hmm... Must be jealousy over the public education, health, voting rights, general welfare, and separate education and religious court system (if they want it), that Arab/Muslim Israelis receive, while Palestinian Muslims get the shaft and Arafat’s various devil spawn.

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 9:58:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


I think you have summed it up. Apart from their general vileness, the Muslims can not stand Israel because everyday it is a reminder of the failure of Islam as a culture and the inferiority of the Arabs who have adopted Islam as a guide to life.

As the psych-children that they are the Muslims would rather obliterate the reminder than emulate it.

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:44:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...


You're not doing yourself any favours with trashing the entire muslim population every time you make reference to them. You know perfectly well that there are an abundance of muslims who do not fit the stereotype you constantly refer to.

For example, Saddam aside, Iraq still provided one of the best education and helath systems in the Middle East. In spite fo the sanctions, Iraq was remarkably self sufficiant throughout the 90's.

What you and Stewie are otherwise alluding to, has some elements of truth to it, but is only half the argument. You can't ignore the impact of aid. If the US tripped over themselves to throw money at the Palestinians the way they do with Israel, things may be decidedly different.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:01:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

While trashing the entire muslim population of the 56 (?) Islamic nations is wrong, it's just so damned easy to do.

But it is their leadership that keeps them the way they are.

Just like their leadership keeps the typical palestinian in a refugee camp.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:45:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


I don't get you. Muslims prattle on 24/7 about undifferentiated Islam. They bang on ablut "the muslim nation," "infidel,s" "Americans" "the Jews."

Many others here constantly bang on about "Zionists," "fascists," "racists" and on and on and on.

If the best the Muslim world has to offer in defence of its decency and ingenuity is Saddam Hussein, then I rest my case. And why the hell should the United Sattes give terrorist Palestinians anything at all.

You would do well to realise that if it weren't for all the oil in the middle east the Soviet Union, Europe, and the US would have dumped the Muslims decades ago and Israel would now have the whole of mandatory Palestine, which is what it is due.

The Muslims would have been treated like all aggressors who lose wars. The fact that the Nazi Palestinian Muslims are even being considered for a state alongside Israel should be a source of shame for the entire world.

Trust me it is the Muslims who do the blanket-statement shtick. As Ibrahamv suggested it is just far more appropriate to generalise than to look for the needle in the haystack.

Addamo, you are so cloaked in denial you are suffocating.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 11:23:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Oh Neo,

You made one of your typical "fuck the arabs" by implying that the Arab population has some genetic flaw which prevents them from running a state. I provided an example to the contrary and you prattle on about my using Saddam as a yard stick.

The muslim world may not be your idea of paradise, but they have manged to keep their heads above water for thousands of years. I doubt we can expect to see many wetsrn countries exhibit anywhere close to the same longevity.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:28:00 pm  
Blogger Woodge said...

Neolefty chick, have you ever met a muslim or been to a muslim country? Or do you just like to use basless generalisations to try to get your point across. I think it is the later.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 3:33:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Like Nazi germany, the Arab world has a fixation on jews. When Jews had no power, it was latent and lax with an occationa jew-ass kicking to satisfy this fixation.

But as soon as the Jews appeared to be amassing into a mighty nation... Genetic? hardly. But advanced by people who think like you? Of course.

Friday, December 23, 2005 1:14:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Ibrahamav said...
"But as soon as the Jews appeared to be amassing into a mighty nation... Genetic? hardly. But advanced by people who think like you? Of course."


Friday, December 23, 2005 9:11:00 am  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

neoleftychick said...
Muslims prattle on 24/7 about undifferentiated Islam.
Which ones are you talking about? There are so many to choose from with so many different views. :P

Sunday, December 25, 2005 1:37:00 am  

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