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Monday, December 19, 2005

Reasons for resistance

Hala Jaber is the first Western journalist to visit Fallujah independently since the US onslaught in late 2004. Writing in the Murdoch UK Times, the discovery is shocking: Massive support for the growing insurgency, evidence of US terrorism, torture by US and Iraqi forces.


Blogger Wombat said...

Absolytely devastating. One hopes that the likes of Shab, David, Theo and co will read this and get some grip on reality.

Thansk for the link AL. Excellelent article. I was surprised that it has taken this long for an independent reporter to be able to visit Fallujah.

Monday, December 19, 2005 11:51:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

And to be published in the Murdoch press.
Important to remember that the Murdoch press isn't always blindly pro-war, though in Australia it certainly is.

Monday, December 19, 2005 12:42:00 pm  
Blogger orang said...

Don't worry, Consequentially everything will be OK in the end. (Can't resist it theo)

Well, this is my prediction for the next several months - year. US citizens getting annoyed with the war?, Bush ratings down despite we will never surrender speech, however does a John Howard double take (listens to the mob braying). OK then, all of a sudden there's Iraqis ready to take over security so pull out 100,000 US troops..leave the F16's , the B1's, the B52's the death squads, the private "security" (psychopaths) to take care of Iraqi freedom. Everybody else stay in barracks/Green Zone. Another election woo hoo, who got voted in now (who cares). Folks back home happy now? No more US soldier deaths. Good, now lets get back to business. Civilians getting killed? - We didn't do it, blame the Iraqis.

Monday, December 19, 2005 1:00:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

I'm glad you mentioned the security contrators, who happen to make up grater numbers than the UK commitements.

One of the big attractions Rumsfled had for pushing for more contractors, was that they are not bound by the laws which bind conventional personale, and even better provide plausible deniability for the US.

The constractors are not just guys in the street carrying guns, tehy are also operating he most sophisticated weaposns and flying airforce jets.

Hence see ho eavil, hear no evil stalwarts like Theo on David can go on blabbering how there is no "evidence" of officially sanctioned attacks on Iraqis being perpetrated by the US.

Monday, December 19, 2005 1:10:00 pm  
Blogger David Tan said...

Hey Antony can you give me some quotes from the atricle which suggest:

1. Massive support for
2. the growing insurgency
3. evidence of US terrorism
4. torture by US and Iraqi forces (other than one guy).


And Addamo I really dont want to hear from you. Ive read about 20 of your postings and what you say is baseless and irrelevant.

Monday, December 19, 2005 2:30:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

You're a sulking brat David. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen you stupid little boy.

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:00:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

"1. Massive support for
2. the growing insurgency
3. evidence of US terrorism
4. torture by US and Iraqi forces (other than one guy)."

"The insurgents are returning to exploit the popular rage. At a clandestine meeting with insurgent leaders representing the main factions fighting in Iraq, I learnt that a new form of resistance is taking shape."

“It is hard to say, but there is sympathy for the insurgency,” a US military official admitted recently. “Basically everyone here has the potential to be an insurgent.”

"Sixty nurseries and schools and 65 mosques and other religious establishments were wrecked. Falluja’s mayor, Dhari abdel Hadi al-Irssan, claims that only 20% of the compensation promised has reached the city."

The population of Fallujah is 170,000. That's not Masive support?

You are not man enough to admit that this si shameful in teh extreme. Your refusal to condem what took place shows that you are nt the least bit distrubed by the loss of life or the violence in Iraq.

Anything goes so long as no one insults the US right?

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:05:00 pm  
Blogger orang said...

david tan said..

"Hey Antony can you give me some quotes from the atricle which suggest:

..4. torture by US and Iraqi forces (other than one guy)."

When you read the article, the one guy reference is:

Handcuffed and blindfolded, he was thrown on to a helicopter and eventually found himself being asked why he had murdered Bigley. His answer — “Who’s Bigley?” — apparently enraged his American interrogator, who unsheathed a knife and pressed it against his neck.

Over the next 15 days he was subjected to the interrogation routines that have become notorious in US internment camps. Electric cables were placed on his chained legs and he was subjected to a mock electrocution, he said. He suffered sleep deprivation and disorientation. Headphones were clamped to his ears and played “indescribable, ugly, loud noises”.


How many more do you want?

You are a true comedian.
I take it that when you list your litanies of denial there will be a "Prove that the US forces do torture (other than one guy)" ?

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:10:00 pm  
Blogger uphillsprinter said...

Neo said...
"Nuke 'em till they glow I say. Imagine Mecca ablaze!? Just fabulous."

David Tan said...
You are making the lefties look good neo.
Friday, December 16, 2005 4:10:49 PM

David, you are a degenerate and your true colours have come out with your little slip. Neo and yourself will make a fine pair.

Now go back to dodging addamo's responses.

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:12:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Here is one of my favourites:

"Witnesses spoke of American Marines dumping bodies in the Euphrates just after the offensive and of mass graves where hundreds are allegedly buried."

Nothing like honouring the dead is there. No sit back and listen to David explain to us how this fits inperfectly with the US's plan to win the hearts and minds.

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:28:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Here's somethign of interest I also noticed.

Until now, all the official death toll figures for the November 2004 assault was put at between 600-1000 insurgents.

According to this article:

"The Falluja-based Study Centre for Human Rights and Democracy has claimed that 4,000 to 6,000 people were killed during Phantom Fury, most of them civilians."

A perfect way to downplay the numbers of casualities. Is it any wonder the US doesn't do body counts?

The 30,000 figure is looking more and more like a pathetic joke.

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:42:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Let's hope that the number reaches the millions. It is best if we just leave the Islamic fascists to blow each other to their 72 virgins. After all, they ALREADY blow each otehr! We just need to guard the oil and let em go for it!

I wish it was on Foxtel!

Monday, December 19, 2005 5:46:00 pm  
Blogger David Tan said...

1. Massive support for
2. the growing insurgency
3. evidence of US terrorism
4. torture by US and Iraqi forces (other than one guy).

Yep no evidence of that at all. YDo you intentionally reach incorrect conclusions Antony?

Monday, December 19, 2005 8:39:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Addamo_01 said...
"The 30,000 figure is looking more and more like a pathetic joke."

neoleftychick said...
"Let's hope that the number reaches the millions."

Oh lovely. Pure Evil has returned.

Monday, December 19, 2005 9:10:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


It has never gone away. Ever read the Koran? Ever studied the worlds of these Islamic fascist fuckers! Michel Houellebecq is being too timid in my book!

Till they glow I tell you!

Monday, December 19, 2005 9:22:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

neoleftychick said...
"Till they glow I tell you!"

Are you willing to let a the Jews in Israel die from nuclear fallout? I mean, from the way you talk, one imagines you would consider it a small price to pay to rid the earth of the terrible Arabs.

Monday, December 19, 2005 10:12:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

What's your conclussion RE torutre in Fallujah Mr Tan?

That the 500 prisoners that were captured in Fallujah were secretly rendered to the French Riviera where they were put up in 5 star suites and promised an XBOX 360 and an IPOD for every one of their relatives?

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:47:00 am  

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