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Sunday, December 18, 2005

Get off the land

While the mainstream media believes Zionist propaganda over Israel's "peaceful" intentions, Peace Now reveals the truth of the matter:

"The most recent data published by the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) indicate that settlement construction during the first half of 2005 was greater than during the same period in 2004."

Read the whole report. It reveals why another Palestinian uprising is all but inevitable.


Blogger neoleftychick said...

We should all support the right of Israelis to live securely in peace. The "Palestinian" people have just declared that they are a terrorist nation.

I would heartily support Israel doing whatever was necessary to cleanse the west Bank of these mass-murdering child molesters. Nuking them till they glow would be best and quickest, but too much of an after effect.

We should open a multi-faith dialogue of what is the best way to rid Israel of the Towelhead menace!


Sunday, December 18, 2005 11:04:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...


Plese shut up.

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:11:00 am  
Blogger evan jones said...

I would have thought the gas chambers would be an appropriate solution to the 'Towelhead' problem.
Israel has adoped the rest of the Nazi mentality; why not the final cog.
I suggested the final solution some time ago - so much more efficient than the current form of ethnic cleansing.

Monday, December 19, 2005 7:17:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Very tiresome when neo-nazis attempt to paint Israel with their colors.

Israel has very little intentions of giving up many of the settlements, and there is no legal reason why it should. It has no intention of Jerusalem being anything but the unified capital of Israel.

These have always been platforms that the Israelis have built all of their peace plans.

Funny that you would think Israel's plans were different.

5000 new housing starts? That means 15000 people? Good for them.

Monday, December 19, 2005 8:51:00 am  
Blogger uphillsprinter said...

"would heartily support Israel doing whatever was necessary to cleanse the west Bank of these mass-murdering child molesters. Nuking them till they glow would be best and quickest"

"open a multi-faith dialogue of what is the best way to rid Israel of the Towelhead menace"

"5000 new housing starts? That means 15000 people? Good for them."


you and neo paint yourselves as neofascits.

Monday, December 19, 2005 12:51:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

Evan Jones

Still stumbling through Teletubbies we see. Clearly you are not ready to study History yet pet.

One can only chuckle at the chutzpah of those who support the terrorist state wannabe of "Palestine." The irony of the Palestinian cheersquad to throw the "nazi" line at supporters of Israel.

After all, the Palestinian Muslim Arabs were led by one of Hitler's right-hand men and these people fought alongside Hitler, brought Eichmann to Palestine and planned the gassing of Palestinian Jews after WW2.

It was this miscalculation by the Palestinian Arabs that got them into the situation they currently face.

They receive no sympathy from me. Why the Israelis have been so patient up until now, god only knows. I would have sorted this poisonous fifth estate LONG ago.

Oh well, we live and learn.

Monday, December 19, 2005 2:27:00 pm  
Blogger Glenn Condell said...

'We should all support the right of Israelis to live securely in peace. The "Palestinian" people have just declared that they are a terrorist nation.'

Racist cow.

'We should all support the right of Palestinians to live securely in peace. The "Israeli" people have just declared that they are a terrorist nation.'

That's more like it.

'cleanse the west Bank of these mass-murdering child molesters'

That's right, let it all hang out -that sort of ugliness is better out than in. And that was the more acceptable part of your post.

Why don't you tell us who you are so we can commence ridding ourselves of the Pigudnik menace in our midst?

You don't belong in this country, whoever you are.

Monday, December 19, 2005 2:39:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Why Glenn, are you denying neo's right to free speech? Why aren't you complaining about the President of Iran's desire to nuke Israel?

Oh, he doesn't blog here?

What about all of the Palestinian Imams who preach death to the Jews in their mosques? They don't blog either?

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:22:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Noe gave up her right to free speech by calling for the extermination of Arabs in teh West bank.

I take it your defence of her is evidence of your agreement with ther suggestion?

BTW. The predsident of Iran did call for hte destruction of Israel, not nuking. They don't have nukes....yet. But then again, they may not be needing them:

Monday, December 19, 2005 3:35:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


We would all be delighted to hear your views on free speech and the demographic fantasies of Hamas. Also a quick vox-pop on the tie Yasser Raghead used to wear might be nice. Ta.

Hypocritical anti-semitic terrorist-lover that you are.

Monday, December 19, 2005 4:16:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Neo sweety

As far as I'm concerned, you can stick around all you like, though having read your posts ever since Ant banned you, iit appears you are descended into histerical, shrieking rants. I'm guessing that you don't cope with rejection too well. Have you ever had a court order against you for stalking, because you beginngin to remind me of a character from a Stephen King novel?

I don't set the rules for this forum, but you evidently don't seem to take a hint when someone tells you to go forth and multiply.

I couldn't give a crap about Hamas. Their goals mean nothing if they are not alignment with reality. Hamas can make all the demands they want, but these will come to nothing while Israel holds the biggers guns.

Either way, Hamas has been chosen and yo ucan sulk all you like abtou it, becasue nobody really cares.

Monday, December 19, 2005 4:45:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Well YOU might be a jellybacked defeatist, but I can assure you the Israelis are not!

Yes well Sharon is a worry. Tough titties if he carks it. This will open the way for Netanyahoo or some REAL tough nut to bitchslap the terrorists out of the West Bank and back where they belong beyond the Jordan River and the Golan Heights.

It has become clear that Israel's security can only be achieved by taking ALL the land it was supposed to get under the British Mandate.

The time for tiddledeewinks is over.

Monday, December 19, 2005 8:54:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Looks like the apprentice has outgrown the master.

Ibrahamav, it's time for you to bow down to the thing they call Neoleftychick.

You're just not in the same league.

Monday, December 19, 2005 9:17:00 pm  
Blogger uphillsprinter said...

oh yes... a circus act indeed

Monday, December 19, 2005 10:23:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...


"Well YOU might be a jellybacked defeatist, but I can assure you the Israelis are no"

Not so much a defeatist as accepting thaqt deomocracy means letting people choose their own leadership. That's the duality of democracy, other's don't always pick the guy you want to win. Look at the US last year, November 2004 turned out to be a day of mourning for the majority of the world.

Ain't it grand?

Abotu that nuclear fallout thing? You given that a thought or you taking a fancy to the Massada thing?

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:43:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Speaking of free speech Ibraham, I take it your low volume of activity on the list these days can be explained by you spending your energies furiously campainging for the release of Ernst Zunel and David Irving.

You're all heart Inbraham.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:01:00 am  
Blogger Mannie said...

Apart from some contributors sounding like neo-nazis - Australia First could take a leaf out of their books - they sound like Afrikaner racists at their worst during the apartheid years.
"Kill all the kaffirs - white supremacy for white Afrikaner supremacy South Africa"
As for nuking Palestinians in the West Bank - maybe no one has heard of nuclear fallout?
Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the French nuclear tests at Mururoa and British nuclear tests at Woomera?
What next - nuke all the Arab countries and to hell with the radiation dust for the rest of the world?
Realism seems to have taken leave of some of the youngsters doing the blogging these days!

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:19:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Addamo, as much as I admire free speech, i will leave the defence of Zundel and irving in the hands of their admirers such as you and eddie.

Can't say that I agree with most of Neo's ideas or speech. But at least she is honest and doesn't disguise her intent with flowery decptive phrases as is the bent of eddie and his ilk.

but neo does go to far and I have no desire to engage in the task of calming her down while surrounded by supporters of Zundel, such as yourself.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:50:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Like yourself Ibrham, I am no supporter of Zundel and company, but I have noted your revelling in his demise on more than one occasion, which would suggest you approve of him being silenced.

I have never before referred to Zundel for he is of no consequence to me.

And if I may inquire, what do you suppose the true intent is that Eddie shares with his ilk? Do you not believe him when he says he condems all violence?

Anyway, thanks for clarifying your position with regard to Neo.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:39:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Reading your posts, I am not lead to believe that zundel does not rate high with you. Sorry, but thats how it looks to me.

I approve of Zundel living a life of misery with no funds and no friends and scorn where ever he turns.

I belive the Goverments contention that he has done more than deny the holocaust.

I believe that eddie is a dyed in the wool antisemite who pretends to decry violence.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:07:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Actually, I have only heard the name of Zundel on a few occasions, but am only vaguely aware of his transgressions. Indeed, I have no reason to doubt the addtional charges laid against him, but I have no idea what they are.

As I said before, I noticed you mentioning him, usually implying that other (me included) are supporters of his. Believe what you will.

I did read a question posed recently, that seeing as the holocaust is largely undisputed, why would holocaust denial be criminalised? After all, someone could claim that no nukes were dropped on Hiroshima, and no one would care, because it obviosuly happened.

I would be interested to hear your views on this.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:04:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Holocaust denial has become one of the most important vehicles for contemporary anti-Semitism. It is the invention of a collection of long-time anti-Semites and apologists for Hitler. Holocaust-denial discourse attempts to prove that the Jewish Holocaust did not happen. Also known as "Holocaust Revisionism", the individuals seeking to deny the Holocaust often have different motives and beliefs, but they all share at one point: that there was no systematic attempt by Nazi Germany to exterminate European Jewry. Those who deny the Holocaust believe that the Jews fabricated the "Big Lie" in order to gain sympathy for a homeland and to extort money, in the form of reparations payments, from Germany. The Nazis themselves can be thought of as the first Holocaust revisionists, for they tried to conceal their extermination program behind euphemisms such as "special treatment" and "final solution to the Jewish problem." Present-day revisionists all share deep seated anti-Semitic feelings, a hatred of Israel, and a need to rehabilitate and glorify Germany, fascism, and the Third Reich.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:16:00 am  
Blogger orang said...

Well it's like in the middle ages - didn't they burn you as a heretic if you denied God?

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:17:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

You are like the middle ages; Diseased and putrid.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:17:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Thanks for the definition Ibraham.

I am more interested in your personal opinion on whether Holocaust denial itself should be criminalised, given that it's existence has been proven and established.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:35:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


I think criminalising Holocaust denial is the most barmey thing ever. It says more about some bizarre unreconciled guilt than anything else.

I say let them speak from the rafters. I haven't read any of these writers, but I am led to believe that David irving is a very credible historian. Have you read any of his stuff? If it worth a look?

Equally I also advocate people screeching from the rafters the realities and true history of Islamo-fascism

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:04:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...


I do believe we;re starting to see the light reappear. For a while there you had us really worried.

I have not read David Irving. I have read mixed reports about his work, but among all the histeria about him, I never had the inclination.

Good to have you back.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:24:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

I don't see why holocaust denial should be criminalized. But I'm not European and have never seen, personally, the devestation of Europe caused by the fascist regimes.

The English courts have destroyed Irving and exposed his fudging of history to support his agenda. Especially the fire bombing of Dresden. Seems he knowingly used an unreliable source that inflated the figures by a factor of 10.

I do not think that holocaust deniers should profit from their racism. Just as criminals should not profit from telling the story of their crimes.

Basically, the holocaust denial industry is a con job.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 3:25:00 pm  
Blogger David Heidelberg said...

Basically, the holocaust denial industry is a con job.

Absolutely, and it amazes me that in the face of all the evidence, there are still those who continue to deny. It's disgusting.

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:31:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
I believe that eddie is a dyed in the wool antisemite who pretends to decry violence.

How do you tell the difference between someone who does nothing but decry violence and somoeone who does nothing but decry violence and secretly, without ever telling a soul, doesn't believe it? For all intents and purposes, aren't they exactly the same thing to the outside world?

Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:59:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Tell it to a priest. He'll give you the forgiveness you seek.

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:42:00 am  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav, since you're on "the outside world", how do YOU tell the difference?

Surely your Kabbbalah classes don't extent to mind-reading....or DO they? *cue the spooky music*

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:36:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

A priest, eddie, tell it to a priest. He will give you the forgiveness you desperately seek.

Wednesday, December 21, 2005 3:45:00 am  
Blogger Mannie said...

"I am led to believe that David Irving is a very credible historian".
Time for "chick" to grow up and read a bit about the Holocaust and the denier industry.
No doubt she could start with our own version in Adelaide - he would help her on the road to "genetically superior Jew".

Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:13:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

She has been led to believe that by some very credible sources, most of which have egg on their face since the Holocaust trial in England where it was proven that Irving was not a credible historian.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 1:50:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...


Tahnks all the saem, but I do not defer to judges for assessments on historiography. After all, our own High Court was hoodwinked by the teh biggest con of the century. That is "terra nullius." How a conman like Henry Reynolds can effect our Constitution is beyond me.

Really scary.

Thursday, December 22, 2005 12:10:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

The court merely allowed the witnesses to prove that Irving deliberately mislead in his published histories.

Friday, December 23, 2005 1:21:00 am  
Blogger Mannie said...

When "neo" starts slagging off about Henry Reynolds, she loses any credibility which she might remotely have had on other issues.
Time to learn history and educate yourself you ignorant child!

Saturday, December 24, 2005 12:04:00 am  

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