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Monday, January 16, 2006

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Dissenting historian Norman Finkelstein, writing in response to at least one gutsy Norwegian’s stand on Israel, highlights the need for honesty in the Middle East debate:

"The recent proposal that Norway boycott Israeli goods has provoked passionate debate. In my view, a rational examination of this issue would pose two questions: 1) Do Israeli human rights violations warrant an economic boycott? and 2) Can such a boycott make a meaningful contribution toward ending these violations? I would argue that both these questions should be answered in the affirmative."

Finkelstein calls for an international response to a rogue state:

"The moral burden to avert the impending catastrophe must now be borne by individual states that are prepared to respect their obligations under international law and by individual men and women of conscience. In a courageous initiative American-based Human Rights Watch recently called on the U.S. government to reduce significantly its financial aid to Israel until Israel terminates its illegal policies in the West Bank. An economic boycott would seem to be an equally judicious undertaking. A nonviolent tactic the purpose of which is to achieve a just and lasting settlement of the Israel-Palestine conflict cannot legitimately be called anti-Semitic. Indeed, the real enemies of Jews are those who cheapen the memory of Jewish suffering by equating principled opposition to Israel's illegal and immoral policies with anti-Semitism."

The charge of anti-Semitism is frequently unnecessary, gratuitous and counter-productive. It also shows a distinct lack of intellectual rigour.

14 Comments:

Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Another unwarranted Finkelstein call to damage Jews, seeming supported by AL. What a pair. Two, accidentally born to Jews, ashamed of their birth.

But why take out their humiliation on their parents kin? Why not set themselves on fire to protest?

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:26:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Do you see how hard they try to escape the all-to-well deserved charge of antisemitic behavior? It is quite laughable.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:11:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

It is not a tactic whose purpose is to achieve a just and lasting settlement of the Israeli-palestinian conflict.

Neither is Palestinian suicide bombing, no matter how many Norwegians might say that it is a tactic whose purpose is to achieve a just and lasting settlement of the Israeli-palestinian conflict.

No matter how many Norwegians might believe it.


I don't know of any group who are equating principled opposition to Israel's illegal and immoral policies with anti-Semitism.

I haven't noticed principled opposition to any, so far unnamed, illegal and immoral policies. And don't forget, it is quite moral to murder ones daughter for shaming the family, in many arab cultures.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 5:58:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

There is no guarentee just as there is no guarentee regarding suicide bombings. The purpose of the boycott is collective punishment which deters absolutely nothing. It is not defensive, it saves no lives, and those who actually use western morality as a measuring stick for behavior know that the boycotters are shortchanged in that department.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 7:10:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

It would do no such thing. Israel's policies are not illegal for a civilised society.

There are many countries, including most arab countries, whose policies are illegal for a civilised society. Yet you do nothing but make antisemitic noise.

And there will never be more than a few non-essential nations who support the immoral boycott

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:10:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

Thanks so much. The book should be out in July/August and although very different to Finkelstein's latest, aims to present an alternative reading of the conflict.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:58:00 am  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

How interesting. Well, hold tight. And if you need any info or advice, let me know...

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:14:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Addamo_01 said...
Israel is the only one occupying land that does not belong to them.

Unlike China in Tibet? And as soon as Syria is willing to come to the table without precondition, they will get the Golan back. As for the West bank and gaza, no ones claim is any better than Israel's claim.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:35:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Seems 'myname' is living in 1984.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 2:37:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

As I believe Syria is willing to come to the peace table with no preconditions.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:22:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

all-born-equal-rights said...
"Just who is being wiped off the map here? Tibetans are not ethnically cleansing Chinese and Palestinians are not ethnically cleansing Israeli Jews!"

But the Palestinians want to ethnically cleanse Israeli Jews! And genocide seems to be their perfered approach. They just don't have the ability. Should they be rewarded for incompitence?

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:04:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Amazing how much addamo can be spread over such a small area. Surprising that flowers don't grow.

Must be the overpowering stench.

Saving Jewish lives is now a crime? Go figure.

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:40:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

What ever we may regard as a best solution really has no bearing on the matter. If the Palestinians do not accept it, it can't be forced on them.

All we can do is what is best for us. Finish the fence, retain only the defensible settlements, and declared Israels borders.

Complete the separation by ensuring only guest workers from oriental countries.

And Mustafa Barghouti starts off with a lie. As historic Palestine includes parts of Jordan, the land he envisions is far less than 23% of the historic palestinian region. There is no apartheid wall, and there are no bantustans planned.

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:22:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Sounds very racist to me. But I think apes are allowed to get away with it. Lower life form and all.

Thursday, January 19, 2006 6:30:00 am  

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