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Saturday, January 14, 2006

Taking a stand

May this politician's initial bravery inspire others across the world:

"A senior Norwegian government minister has apologised after she lent her backing to a boycott of Israeli goods.

"Finance Minister Kristin Halvorsen withdrew her support for the action following intense criticism from fellow politicians, Israel and the US. But she insisted the decision to make the public apology was entirely her choice.

"She told Norwegian television: 'I regret that I supported the initiative to boycott Israel. It was my mistake as a member of government to make a political statement in a way that opposes the policy of the majority of the government.'"

Such behaviour worked to end apartheid in South Africa, and may well have the same effect in Israel.

UPDATE: The US government is not happy with Norway:

"US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice threatened Norway with 'serious political consequences' after Finance Minister and Socialist Left Party leader Kristin Halvorsen admitted to supporting a boycott of Israeli goods.

"The reaction was reportedly given to the Norwegian embassy in Washington DC, and it was made clear that the statements came from the top level of the US State Department, newspaper VG reports."

19 Comments:

Blogger orang said...

Well you know, Norwegians don't know about dirty politics yet. They are too honest and too straight and they just want to sort of get a long , that's their nature (unless you criticize them for hunting whales of course)

A quote from the article,

"The Simon Wiesenthal Centre has condemned the Sor-Trondelag boycott as “a continuation of Norway's collaborationist history” during the nazi era."

What????? If I was the Norwegians I'd kick the motherfuckers arse for that one.

and,

"It added that the boycott placed the Oslo government in the camp of “the forces of terrorism”."

F*ck off you pox ridden cocksuking whore.! (that's what I'd say if I was a Norgy.)

Saturday, January 14, 2006 6:41:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

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Saturday, January 14, 2006 10:55:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

If you were Norwegian, you'd reflect on the previous harm you committed against the Jews during your Quisling days, realize that South African Aparthied has nothing to do with the middle east, unless you realize that it is Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and other ME dictatorships which are so much more related to South Africa, and apologize until you were spent.

Then send a sizable donation to the UJA to cleanse your lutherin soul.

But you're just a simian. And answered accordingly.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:01:00 am  
Blogger Pete's Blog said...

A boycott of Israeli goods would certainly be supported if not promoted by neo-Nazi's.

Given the US will always buy Israeli goods (unsold on European shelves) is it valid for pro-Palestinians to consciously, or unconsciously (and futily) support a neo-Nazi cause?

Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:03:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Israeli goods sell quite well on European shelves. As the pan_arab movement, which the Palestinian cause is a part of, is quite fascist and racist in nature, they should have no moral qualms in supporting anything else.

However, please ask pro-palestinians who wish to cripple Israel economically thus causing collective punishment on 5 million Jews as well as 1.2 million muslims, to refrain from using anything technical or medical from Israel.

You'll quickly find that these antisemites (and most vocal supporters of the Palestinians are just antisemities in the closet) give in on anything affecting their own lives.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:35:00 am  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Ibrahamav said...
"However, please ask pro-palestinians who wish to cripple Israel economically thus causing collective punishment on 5 million Jews as well as 1.2 million muslims, to refrain from using anything technical or medical from Israel."

Hi Ibby! Can we take it from this statement that you are opposed to collective punishment in general, or is this aversion to this tactic nation-specific?

Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:00:00 am  
Blogger orang said...

The telling part of the article was not boycott or not, but the reaction to the politician's proposal. No diplomacy needed here. The politian is either a nazi or a terrorist sympathizer for suggesting such a thing.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:27:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

That's a good point Orang. It's as thought the US wanted to make an example of Norway.

I came across this today.

http://www.jta.org/page_view_breaking_story.asp?intid=870&ref=daily_briefing

Pretty amazing, given that their constituents probably never got a visit.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 9:18:00 am  
Blogger Ros said...

She told Norwegian television: “I regret that I supported the initiative to boycott Israel. It was my mistake as a member of government to make a political statement in a way that opposes the policy of the majority of the government.”

Seems she still approves a boycott just shouldn't put the boycott as a member of the government.

Anybody able to say what the boycott mission was. Was it just boycott Israel because it is populated by nasty people. Or was there some end point at which the boycott could be lifted. Like hand over the West Bank or change your government or return the Palestinians (and send the Jews back to Iraq Iran etc).

With this limited information it would seem that she justs objects to Israel so its abolition would seem to be her call. Hard not to see this as anti-semitic.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:44:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

"With this limited information it would seem that she justs objects to Israel so its abolition would seem to be her call. Hard not to see this as anti-semitic."

That's what I call institutionalised myopia. Not being aware of the details of the boycott, it's so much more convenent to assume it must be based on some irrational hatred of Jews.

Even your suggestion that Israel was "just boycott Israel because it is populated by nasty people" proves you are fishing for a reason to dismiss this policy as being fuelled by anti-Semitism.

When you are defending human rights abuses, I suppose this is the only reliable defense one can muster.

Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:26:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

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Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:07:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

As usual, eddie can take nothing from my statements. He lacks the ability to think coherently.

I'm glad that this particular rogue politician realized she was in the deep ocean and forgot her swimming lesson. She was lucky that she could pull herself out before drowning.

She was guity of institutionalised myopia. But then, she wasn't an institution and had to drop it.

Monday, January 16, 2006 2:07:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Ibraham,

Would you care to address Eddie's question?

"Can we take it from this statement that you are opposed to collective punishment in general, or is this aversion to this tactic nation-specific?"

Just for the sake of clarification.

Monday, January 16, 2006 4:53:00 am  
Blogger Ros said...

Thanks addamo, so the answer to the question what is the boycott mission is just a general, Israel is guilty of human rights abuses. If this poly calls for boycotts against nations on the grounds that they can be designated human rights abusers then Norway won’t be doing business with much of the world. Maybe she has, do you know?

You might choose to wonder however, if she hasn’t, why Israel?

Maybe this poly has a reasoned approach to her mindset on Israel. Are you aware of her thinking on this?

If you are unaware of any more information as to her purpose and reasons and the origins and purpose of the boycott I would respectfully suggest that you are suffering from institutionalised myopia, then you are not an institution either. That is calls against Israel need no supporting reasons or purpose, just must be a good idea. I prefer my kind of myopia to yours.

Monday, January 16, 2006 8:29:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Ros,

You made an assumption that the government of Norway arrivd at a descision to boycott Israel that had no conditions attached to it. Whta's more, you based your assumtion on the same information I had.

If indeed your assumption is correct (based on some blanket hatred of Israel), then I would agree with you entirely. Than again, such a policy would also be a diplomatic disaster.

My reference to instituional myopia stems from repetaed altercations (civilised ones) with Israeli firsters who reject that criticism of Israeli foreign policy cannot have but one motive, anti-Semitism. Your haste to reach for this switch seemed typical of that. If I am istaken, I take it back and appologise.

Monday, January 16, 2006 9:03:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Addamo_01 said...
Ibraham,

Would you care to address Eddie's question?

******************************
I don't know anyone who wishes to address the baiting questions of an antisemite.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:29:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

I don't recall reading anything from any Jew or Israel with any statement that even comes close to "reject that criticism of Israeli foreign policy cannot have but one motive, anti-Semitism."

In fact, it is often antisemites who scream this invented notion from the roof tops whenever it is proven that some rogue politician is calling for abuse of Israel without having consulted the actual facts.

The Norwegian government has not now, or ever, called for a boycott of israeli goods. For good reason. It would be laughed out of the league of moral nations.

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:33:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

So I take it Ibraham, you are against colective punishment of any kind?

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:06:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

addamo

The collective punishment that Islamofascists have dealt the Israeli people over the decades is an abomination that all moral people must denounce.

I am just stunned st how patient the Israelis have been. I would have vaporised the asshole Islamists years ago.

Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:46:00 pm  

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