Israel's acting PM Ehud Olmert offers platitudes about a Palestinian state:
"The choice between allowing Jews to live in all parts of the land of Israel and living in a state with a Jewish majority mandates giving up parts of the Land of Israel. We cannot continue to control parts of the territories where most of the Palestinians live.
"Israel will keep security zones, main settlement blocs, and places important to the Jewish people, first of all, Jerusalem, united under Israeli control. There can be no Jewish state without Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty."
And there will not be a Palestinian state under these conditions. The soon-to-be formed new Palestinian government will see to that.
Meanwhile, the Arab Association for Human Rights has released a report, "Beyond the Walls":
"In the State of Israel, the Palestinian Arab minority and the Jewish majority live largely in separate areas. With the exception of 'mixed cities', in which a significant Palestinian minority lives alongside a clear Jewish majority, most Palestinians and Jews live in their own communities, in a territorial separation of sorts.
"Apart from this territorial separation, recent years have seen the establishment of separation walls and fences between Arab and Jewish communities within the State of Israel, and, in other cases, between Arab and Jewish neighbourhoods within the same city. This physical separation has been initiated by the Israeli establishment and is meant to prevent physical or even eye contact between the two populations. The reasons offered as to why these walls have been established seem rather foreign to the realities on the ground.
"This report aims to provide a review of these walls and fences as they manifest themselves in three areas within Israel, and to discuss the human rights violations they entail."
Today's comments by Olmert suggest that Israel has no intention of eradicating discrimination against non-Jews. By saying that he wants to begin, "setting the permanent borders of the state of Israel to ensure a Jewish majority", he would ideally like no Palestinians or Arabs at all, but alas, international pressure would not allow such a move. Instead, expect further resistance to negotiate with the Palestinians - especially if Hamas "terrorists" are in government - and a growing realisation among Palestinians that a one-state solution may be the only long-term solution. Israelis may continue fencing themselves in, but living in a highly militarised penitentiary will eventually become unbearable.
"The choice between allowing Jews to live in all parts of the land of Israel and living in a state with a Jewish majority mandates giving up parts of the Land of Israel. We cannot continue to control parts of the territories where most of the Palestinians live.
"Israel will keep security zones, main settlement blocs, and places important to the Jewish people, first of all, Jerusalem, united under Israeli control. There can be no Jewish state without Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty."
And there will not be a Palestinian state under these conditions. The soon-to-be formed new Palestinian government will see to that.
Meanwhile, the Arab Association for Human Rights has released a report, "Beyond the Walls":
"In the State of Israel, the Palestinian Arab minority and the Jewish majority live largely in separate areas. With the exception of 'mixed cities', in which a significant Palestinian minority lives alongside a clear Jewish majority, most Palestinians and Jews live in their own communities, in a territorial separation of sorts.
"Apart from this territorial separation, recent years have seen the establishment of separation walls and fences between Arab and Jewish communities within the State of Israel, and, in other cases, between Arab and Jewish neighbourhoods within the same city. This physical separation has been initiated by the Israeli establishment and is meant to prevent physical or even eye contact between the two populations. The reasons offered as to why these walls have been established seem rather foreign to the realities on the ground.
"This report aims to provide a review of these walls and fences as they manifest themselves in three areas within Israel, and to discuss the human rights violations they entail."
Today's comments by Olmert suggest that Israel has no intention of eradicating discrimination against non-Jews. By saying that he wants to begin, "setting the permanent borders of the state of Israel to ensure a Jewish majority", he would ideally like no Palestinians or Arabs at all, but alas, international pressure would not allow such a move. Instead, expect further resistance to negotiate with the Palestinians - especially if Hamas "terrorists" are in government - and a growing realisation among Palestinians that a one-state solution may be the only long-term solution. Israelis may continue fencing themselves in, but living in a highly militarised penitentiary will eventually become unbearable.
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Violet,
Jewishness is basically a religion which became identifiable as a culture during the centuries of diaspora.
People who gave up their Jewish religion, or who did not practice it, like the ancestors on both sides of my family, assimilated and were no longer Jewish.
People who call themselves Jews are people who at some level accept the relgion ... like non-practising Catholics they are non-practising Jews. Catholics become catholics when christened as babies and that's it forever, whether you practise the religion or not.
Jews, real Jews, must have a Jewish mother to be considered Jewish although the more liberal aspects of the religion will recognise converts and anyone with a Jewish parent.
The Jewish as culture will of course die out because in the modern age Jews are not threatened within the countries in which they live and the really dedicated ones can go to Israel.
Judaism as a religion will continue and will be practised, as other religions are, regardless of one's nationality or culture.
Interestingly, if you want to go back through your Nobel Prize list you will find many 'winners' were not strictly Jews, as in born of a Jewish mother, and many had dual parentage. The question then is if one has an Irish Catholic parent and a Jewish American parent which is the prevailing influence.
Answer, neither and both. Talking about achievements based on race is well, racist.
There are lots of clever Jews and lots of dumb ones, probably more dumb ones now than there were or Israel would not be in such a mess.
There are lots of clever people in all cultures and nations and there doesn't exist on this planet pure strains of anything.
Even Aborigines, if you go back far enough, came from somewhere else and evolved through mixing and marrying.
It is good to honour the strains of culture and race which flow through all of us but regarding one as more important than another is foolish.
My ancestors, and these are only recentish ones I know about, were English, German, Scottish, French, Danish, Greek and Moroccan or maybe Aboriginal but we're not sure... the religions they practised and dropped were Jewish, Anglican, Baptist, Hugeunot and Catholic but I am Australian and a follower of no religion.
And it's a pretty fine place to be. I am enormously grateful to all of my ancestors for being so flexible as to assimilate and for having a pragmatic approach to religion.
neo
the independent state of Palestine is not going to come because of Palestinian elections, it is going to come because Israel will realise it either gets a viable Palestinian state as a neighbour or it gets one State, with all the Palestinians in it and a Jewish minority.
What would be your tip on which it will be?
I see loewaddamo still coddles antisemites who use the khazar approach.
You can remove it all you'd like. It's going to keep coming back.
Any jerk-off who posts crap about the majority of Jews being Khazars is basically posting antisemitic nonsense in the best tradition of Zudel, Duke Loewaddamo, and Irving.
At least rhr realizes that the creation of a palestinian state rests with those who control the land.
I believe you are full of addamo. I've admitted to that many times.
Israel has control of the land. Ownership is in dispute and by UN resolution should be settle by negotiation.
But one side believes suicide bombers are their best negotiating tool. Thusly, the other side shall most likely make additional unilateral moves. They will fix and seal the borders and allow the genocidal dreaming suicide bomber side to sink or swim on their own. Based on gaza and the elections, it appears they are begging to sink.
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