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Sunday, October 09, 2005

Some Arab spring

Many in the Arab world are starting to wonder if normalising relations with Israel is a healthy option after decades of blind hatred. Beirut Spring outlines some of the issues but declares:

"...it is time we threw behind us all the rhetoric and started thinking progressively."

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Blogger anthony said...

The second argument is the one most popular among leftist and secular intellectuals (read Ghassan Tweiny). The argument, simply put is this: Israel is brutal force that wants to establish a homogenous state in the middle of a culturally diverse region, to prove that our model of diversity and tolerance is inferior to theirs.

A “culturally diverse region” ? “our model of diversity and tolerance”? Ye Gods, I’ve entered the Twilight Zone…

The fourth argument on why we should still be at war with Israel is the most substantial one. But it only applies to countries that share a border with Israel like Lebanon.
I would call it the Hezbollah argument: Israel has expansionist ambitions in our land and water resources, and it can wiggle its way out of the international community’s watchful eye. This is why we should have deterrence capabilities.


Even the most expansionist Israel that critics can imagine in their (rather questionable) minds is still limited by the constraints of a small population, civilian-based economy, and international opinion- including that of the United States. Yet Syria’s actions in Lebanon go by ignored. It never ceases to amaze me just how much the Arab world can put aside the actions of its ‘brothers’.

As for the move towards a normalising of relations with Israel- a wonderful idea. Economic, academic and sporting ties should be strengthened (and established). A good model would be Israeli-Turkish relations.

Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:54:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Anthony, my understanding is that the post was listing these ideas, not endorsing them. It is calling for all of these approaches to relations with Israel to be set aside. My guess is that you agree with the author, Mustapha. Is that correct?

Sunday, October 09, 2005 5:44:00 pm  
Blogger anthony said...

People who are against normalizing ties with Israel usually have four arguments

I was pointing out my dissatisfaction with the arguments that Mustapha has ‘summarised’. I understand he wasn’t completely endorsing them, although he does imply that he sees Israel as expansionist by claiming this argument is the most substantial one. Something I disagree with.

But I do agree that Israel’s relations with its neighbours need to be fixed. The onus for this should not be on Israel alone.

Dirt, I agree in-part with the author.

Sunday, October 09, 2005 7:07:00 pm  
Blogger Mustapha said...

you should have posted your comments in the original source.

It would have been a learning experience for all of us.


The Beirut Spring

Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:22:00 pm  
Blogger anthony said...

I'm sure it could have been. I've bookmarked your blog- I'll drop in another time.

Sunday, October 09, 2005 10:22:00 pm  

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