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Wednesday, November 23, 2005

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- The Independent, November 22:

"Iraqis face the dire prospect of losing up to $200bn (£116bn) of the wealth of their country if an American-inspired plan to hand over development of its oil reserves to US and British multinationals comes into force next year. A report produced by American and British pressure groups warns Iraq will be caught in an "old colonial trap" if it allows foreign companies to take a share of its vast energy reserves. The report is certain to reawaken fears that the real purpose of the 2003 war on Iraq was to ensure its oil came under Western control."

- Murdoch's Australian thinks Ariel Sharon is a "dove" and a "strong voice for peace." Shame about that pesky occupation and the building of even more settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

- Blogger Joshua Marshall @ Talking Points Memo is hiring two journalists. The rise of the blogs continues.

- Colin Powell's former chief of staff expands on the "cabal" that led the US into Iraq and America's tattered reputation.

- The Guardian reports on a book discussing that lover of freedom and democracy, Maggie Thatcher:

"Margaret Thatcher forced Francois Mitterrand to give her the codes to disable Argentina's deadly French-made missiles during the Falklands war by threatening to launch a nuclear warhead against Buenos Aires, according to a book."

- Russ Baker on Bob Woodward:

"...The very definition of an "investigative reporter," as Woodward is labelled these days ad nauseum, is a pretty elastic one. Meeting a source in a parking garage as a way of identifying abuses and high crimes by powerful insiders is one thing. Dining off that for the next three decades while chumming it up with well-placed insiders for their 'exclusive accounts' is another."

- Tim Dunlop @ Road to Surfdom wonders if Dick Cheney understands what his little liberation flourish in Iraq has created.


Blogger Shabadoo said...

God, I still get wood when I think about Maggie. That's a great story.

They really should put Iraqi oil in some sort of trust, like they do in Alaska, and give everyone a cut.

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:12:00 pm  
Blogger smiths said...

hey shab, just to continue the white phosphorous thing i genuinely suggest you read this

the writer george monbiot is a lefty yes,
he is also a man who meticulously researches everything he writes on and includes sources for every claim he makes

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:40:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

And so the official looting of Iraq's oil begins.

What a joke. The war supporters have officially lost their last claim to righteouness.

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 1:45:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

So glad to see you approved of Saddam looting Iraq's oil wealth.

Morality does not require altruism.

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:38:00 pm  
Blogger Antony Loewenstein said...

So your beloved war has merely replaced one tyrant with Western multinationals.
You must be so pleased...

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:43:00 pm  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Ibrahamav: "Morality does not require altruism."

What does that even mean?

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:19:00 pm  
Blogger orang said...

Nooooooo. It's not about the oil.

Isn't Monbiot the reason for "Moonbats"?

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:30:00 pm  
Blogger uphillsprinter said...

"So glad to see you approved of Saddam looting Iraq's oil wealth."

You are awfully presumptuous friend; I don’t think he is condoning Saddam’s looting. Do you ever actually consider or read what people post or do you just take sides and wait for your turn to “post at” as a response.

And for your
"Morality does not require altruism."

So what you are trying to say is that the bush administration has the moral authority of dropping a15000 pound bomb (a bomb so heavy that is does not need to explode) in a crowded city based on “intel” that Saddam might be in the vicinity. Never mind the INNOCENT civilians.

Nooo I don’t think that captures the lack of altruism component.

I think the better analogy is that Invading, occupying, looting and TORTURING all for the sole intention of re establishing economic and global hegemony is MORALLY justified because of the consequence of removing a ‘client’ dictator gone bad.

I think dirtbikeoption, is what our friend is trying to say

Oh sooo SCAMPISH!!!!

Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:47:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

It appears that you are not thinking to well. But your feeble attempt is applauded.

There was and is no intent by the American party to loot and torture. Neither was there an attempt, via the Gulf War, to establish a global hegemony.

The US removed a murderous threat to the region. But they didn't realize what the people were actually like. Oh well.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:08:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

They didn't realize how pissed of the minority sunni's would be once they lost their right to rule the Shi'ites and Kurds.

Let alone face their wrath after years of torture and looting.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:11:00 am  
Blogger orang said...

.....The US removed a murderous threat to the region. But they didn't realize what the people were actually like. Oh well...

You are either;

a) An Arab hater.
b) Have a strong and irrational affinity to a country approx. West of Iraq (further west than Jordan)
c) A moron
d) Taking the piss

Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:04:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

The fact that a group of ideologues wrote about establishing US global hegemony, and even published it on the web, seems to have gone comletely over Ibraham's head.

Orang, I think you may be onto something. Be prepared to be initiated into our illuistrious club.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:10:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

That some group wrote it doesn't mean the US government policy is to follow it. In a free country, anyone is allowed to come up with plans for anything.

Orang is into nonsense. I'm sure he'll fit in with you.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 6:14:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

Small group? Ibraham, you are so adept at spotting all manner of anti-Semitic conspiracies, yet so utterly blinkered when it comes to infiramtion hat challenges what little grey matter you allow to consiuder anything else. You sound like Scott McClellan during one of hsi disasterous press conferences

Dick Cheney Donald Rumsfeld, and Paul Wolfowitz were part of PNAC, in case you hadn't noticed. Small fry?

If you'd bothered to read their document, Rebuilding America's Defences, you'd realise that the US foreign policy is following it to a T.

The PNAC claims that the aftermath of he Cold War was a "strategic moment" that should not be squandered. Members of PNAC say that America should use its position to advance its power and interests into all areas of the globe. They believe the time is ripe for establishing democracies in regimes considered hostile to U.S. interests and are not hesitant to advise the use of military means to achieve those ends.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:42:00 am  
Blogger leftvegdrunk said...

Orang, I'd preface each of these suggestions about Ibrahamav with the word "unemployed" or "insomniac". Where do these heckling fools find the time? Could there be more than one of them, on some kind of roster? Amazing. And very sad.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:07:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Hey Dirt

It might suprise you that we're not all on the same time zone. That probably gives a distorted impression.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:34:00 pm  
Blogger uphillsprinter said...

"not thinking too well", "feeble attempt", it wouldn't hurt to be nice ibrahamav.

I guess the Americans are occupying Iraq for the 'coffee beans', oil is sooo
Gulf War.

"...realize what the people were actually like. Oh well."... What are you, Bill O'Reilly!?

There is more to the Iraqi resistance than foreign fighters and "pissed sunni's". You have conveniently neglected the Shi'ite resistance. And not all 'evil' Sunni's are associated with Saddam's henchmen.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:12:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Poor addamo, your antisemitic bent causes you to imagine things not done.

Uphill, I'm just going with the flow. Nice is not a requirement. I don't notice the pissed sunni's playing nice.

Thursday, November 24, 2005 9:56:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Gee Ibeaham,

Maybe it's time you looked up anti-Semitism in the dictionary, and learn what it means.

I was talking abotu US foreign policy being manipuated by the ideology of a select few. Surely you are not so stupid as to assume that my mention of 3 people (i.e. only one of whom is Jewish) is an attack on Jews or Israel?

But then again, maybe you are indeed that stupid.

Friday, November 25, 2005 12:32:00 am  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Addamo_01 said...
"Gee Ibeaham, Maybe it's time you looked up anti-Semitism in the dictionary, and learn what it means."

Addamo_01, after carefully looking over all the past situations where Ibrahamav has used the trope "anti-semitism", I think I have figured out what he means by it:

"You are an anti-semite"

is always synonymous with

"You disagree with me".

That seems to be all there is to it.

Friday, November 25, 2005 1:08:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

I would add to that Edward, it also means "You disagree with me and I have no argument to refute you".

Friday, November 25, 2005 2:37:00 pm  
Blogger Edward Mariyani-Squire said...

Addamo_01, you're right, but on second thoughts I would add to that

"You disagree with me, I have no argument to refute you, I'm not even sure what 'an argument' is, and frankly I don't anti-semite".

Friday, November 25, 2005 8:26:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

You would add that because you're an antisemite and as a pre-emptive argument to refute an actual claim of an antisenitic frame of mind?

Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:41:00 am  

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