The following letter appears in today's Australian:
Your editorial ("A lifeline to Gaza", 17-18/11) overlooks the remainder of the occupied Palestinian territories and Israel's violations.
While we welcome Israel's withdrawal from any inch of Palestine, it is important to know that the Gaza Strip represents less than 1.5 per cent of historic Palestine, and what should not be overlooked here is what Israel is doing in the West Bank in terms of building and expanding settlements and the apartheid wall deep inside the occupied West Bank. The Wall, which is near completion, is twice as high and seven times as long as the Berlin Wall. It is 8m high and over 700km long, and consists of reinforced cement, barbed wire, electrical fences, trenches, electronic motion sensors, guard towers and military roads.
The Wall is having a devastating impact on the lives of Palestinians in the occupied territories, and by the time it is complete, it will close off the Palestinian territories from the outside world. Israel will control all entries and exits as well as all the aerial and electromagnetic space and approximately 56 per cent of the West Bank will be de facto annexed to Israel.
The land incorporated into Israel by the Wall is the richest agricultural land in the West Bank and includes the aquifer system which provides 51 per cent of the West Bank's water resources. The Palestinians will effectively be living in the largest prison in the world. What (Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon is trying to do is exchange the withdrawal from Gaza with the theft of 56 per cent of the West Bank as well as the entire city of Jerusalem. Needless to say this expansion is rejected by the Palestinians and will not bring peace, stability and security.
When will Israel understand that what it needs to build are bridges and peace with the Palestinian people and not walls?
Ali Kazak
Head of delegation to Australia and New Zealand
Ambassador of Palestine to Vanuatu and East Timor
Your editorial ("A lifeline to Gaza", 17-18/11) overlooks the remainder of the occupied Palestinian territories and Israel's violations.
While we welcome Israel's withdrawal from any inch of Palestine, it is important to know that the Gaza Strip represents less than 1.5 per cent of historic Palestine, and what should not be overlooked here is what Israel is doing in the West Bank in terms of building and expanding settlements and the apartheid wall deep inside the occupied West Bank. The Wall, which is near completion, is twice as high and seven times as long as the Berlin Wall. It is 8m high and over 700km long, and consists of reinforced cement, barbed wire, electrical fences, trenches, electronic motion sensors, guard towers and military roads.
The Wall is having a devastating impact on the lives of Palestinians in the occupied territories, and by the time it is complete, it will close off the Palestinian territories from the outside world. Israel will control all entries and exits as well as all the aerial and electromagnetic space and approximately 56 per cent of the West Bank will be de facto annexed to Israel.
The land incorporated into Israel by the Wall is the richest agricultural land in the West Bank and includes the aquifer system which provides 51 per cent of the West Bank's water resources. The Palestinians will effectively be living in the largest prison in the world. What (Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon is trying to do is exchange the withdrawal from Gaza with the theft of 56 per cent of the West Bank as well as the entire city of Jerusalem. Needless to say this expansion is rejected by the Palestinians and will not bring peace, stability and security.
When will Israel understand that what it needs to build are bridges and peace with the Palestinian people and not walls?
Ali Kazak
Head of delegation to Australia and New Zealand
Ambassador of Palestine to Vanuatu and East Timor
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Some News -
ERUSALEM - Israeli Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon has decided to quit his Likud Party and set up a new party for upcoming general elections, Army Radio reported late Sunday.
Earlier, the moderate Labor Party voted to leave Sharon's coalition, already weakened by an internal Likud rift over
Israel's pullout from Gaza. Setting up a new party would scramble the political picture for the early election, set tentatively for March.
from yahoo news
Yep, Israel is about to enter a rocky period. Let's hope Sharon is soundly defeated, but time will tell. Will write something about this once Sharon has confirmed the move.
Let's hope Israel's most popular politician is defeated? Why do you hate democracy?
As for Gaza being 1.5% of historic Palestine, that is incorrect. As Historic Palestine has parts of Jordan, Gaza is far less than 1.5%.
Becaue Sharon is a war criminal. As if the Israeli people continue electing him, it sends a pretty strong message to the world. Not unlike Howard in Australia, Bush in the US and Blair in the UK.
antony, antony, antony... Your war criminal statement just proves your bigotry. Sharon is no more a war criminal than Eisenhower, MacArther, Westmoreland, Puller, Lincoln, Washington, and other heroes. The message the Israelis send is that they are not about to give in to antisemites who wish their destruction, no matter how often they are published.
Eddie, you're not curious, you're just a schmuck. Peddle your hate elsewhere.
I'm sure certain element of america viewed Washington as a war criminal, and the entire south view lincoln as a war criminal. So what you're asking is pretty meaningless.
The soft spot I have for eddie is that part of his head where his skull never closed over.
Exactly what war crime was Sharon found guilty of in an Israeli court?
And eddie established his antisemetic credentials well before this. He loves his mother? So he's an antisemite who loves his mother. He rides a bike? So he's an antisemite who rides a bike.
I repeat:
Eddie, you're not curious, you're just a schmuck. Peddle your hate elsewhere.
Addamo - your complaint has no merit. Eddie status of antisemite is not elevating, unless you're a neo-nazi looking for a buddy and you found one in eddie. Good luck with that.
As for eddie, he's a schmuck. All he is doing is baiting. You want the hook? Take it. Hope you choke on it.
Predictable? Yes, when you spew antisemitism, I'm apt to call you an antisemite.
When you bait, it's probably because you're a schmuck.
You consider that being elevated? Then you're a moron. Predictably so.
So little judgement required to know your pea-brain.
Got any physics to enlighten us with? Sorry you opened your mouth and had to swallow your foot? Tough.
Very true.
Read this piece by Uri Avnery on this subject (it's been instructive for my book, too):
http://www.counterpunch.org/avnery1002.html
I accused eddie of antisemitism because he spouted as much, not for any historical fact. As such, he is an antisemite who, occasionally, spouts historical fact. Big deal.
You seem to be a duck who is drowning and hoping desparately that the rain stops.
I consider the accusation to be legitimate and it should be severe. Ever wonder why you've just parroted the favorite bromide of most holocaust deniers when accused of antisemitism?
I don't wonder. And if AL was honest, he wouldn't wonder either.
Edward Mariyani-Squire said...
I really don't know why you keep saying that I (and just about everyone else) is anti-semitic.
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I don't know why antisemites always use the expression "(and just about everyone else)" other than as a canard.
Addamo, you are attempting to convince me I'm surrounded by antisemites? Rather strange, coming from you.
In fact, you merely demonstrate an antisemitic outlook. Using terms such as "zionist thought police", and "Zionism promotes the belief that anti-Semitism is endemic to non Jews" is a pretty clear indication of your thought process in the matter.
A number? Actually, only a few. Your suggestion regarding 'goyim', is of course a patented one used by many antisemites. Why would you use it? Hmmm?
I, too, grapple with what makes ordinary fellows like you antisemitic, and why do you fail to recognize it? Is it that you do recognize it but are embarrassed to admit it? You feel you can hide it with fancy catch words and phrases dreamt up by antisemites who came before you?
Who knows?
Eddie, whatever you picked up came from neo-nazi sites. It is fairly obvious.
Exactly how many Jewish zionists (and remember, all Jews who consider themselves to be Jews, religiously, are Zionists)believe modern Israel should expand to the boundaries noted in Bamidbar?
I am suggesting that eddie is not honest.
Additionally, politely answering a dishonest question is not a requirement of anyone for anything.
Answering any question? Or a question such as "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
I need to know why he needs an answer to a question that has no bearing on the discussion. I wonder why eddie is so coy about his antisemitism. Do you know why?
after all, he has no reputation to protect.
Out-smarted by eddie? Someone has to be worried about being out-smarted by eddie? Those poor people.
Again, exactly how many Jewish zionists (and remember, all Jews who consider themselves to be Jews, religiously, are Zionists)believe modern Israel should expand to the boundaries noted in Bamidbar?
Or perhaps a better question is: How many, of the above, believe Israel will eventually have those same boundaries? How many non-jewish zionists believe it?
Unbending views? You send so...judgemental? Like one with unbending views? And from the fact that I question eddie's motives and wonder if he has any idea how many Jewish zionists (and there are about 13-15 million of them, depending on who is counting how many Jews there are in the world) and no one here has even ventured to guess how many believe modern Israel should have expantion of its borders to teh limits set in Bamidbar, and how many believe that Israel will have such borders.
But you pronounce judgement upon Jews without any of that knowledge.
Exactly as any antisemite would do. Funny how that happened, isn't it?
I have said nothing, but, because you have this fixed, antisemitic idea, you have decided my opinion.
Have you found any Jew taking the entire Torah literally?
Why don't you try a simple question? Could it be assumed that the average Jew finds eddie to have an antisemitic bent, based on his various posts on this blog? Yes. That is a reasonable assumption.
Addamo, a fellow antisemite would heartily agree with you. That eddie is an educated takes nothing away from the antisemitic tendenccies he exposes. Possibly you enjoy the way he changes the terms, as he did in his last?
Eddie, I have never used the term "religious Jew" so I don't have a classification definition.
I don't know what passages are clear and non-metaphorical according to the Jewish people you have met.
Why would you print the Shema and ask if I agree with those people who believe that is the only thing? Is That all they believe? What is their understanding of heart, soul, and mind? How do you understan with your heart? How could it then be literal since your heart understands nothing but the eltrical pulse that causes it to beat, and that isn't even an understanding.
Addamo, as your only friends are imaginary, you must have confused your identification.
Manny, I can't answer for the Jews who are not yet living in Israel, just as I can't answer for the Jews who refused to leave Germany when the opportunity arose.
The only part of the Shema that can be taken literally, is the opening lines, and even then, wha was being address and why are the letters enlarged?
But you are not here for a theological lesson. Go back to cheder if that's what you want.
Go to cheder.
What simple question did you ask? Is Edward Mariyani-Squire an antisemite?
Simple enough. I would say yes.
Any other question you have in mind that isn't an admission of your utter ignorace? Questions regarding your normal ignorance will probably be answered.
Eddie, whatever you picked up Eddie, once again, you'll get no answer from me regarding Bamidbar till you answer this. Aditting ignorance is fine, eddie, most of us already recognize that trait in you.
"Exactly how many Jewish zionists (and remember, all Jews who consider themselves to be Jews, religiously, are Zionists)believe modern Israel should expand to the boundaries noted in Bamidbar?"
Or that Israel should be at the borders of what is stated in Bamidbar?
Come on eddie, scared to answer?
You can admit your fear, many of your fellow antisemites will support you in defeat.
The question remains, and eddie's to scared, or to ignorant, to answer it.
Why don't you answer it for him addamo? You've done everything else including licking his butt.
No, eddie, just people like you. That's why they don't hire you as a waiter.
I see you are too chicken or ignorant or 'caught in your own trap' to answer the question. Oh well, it might have been quite illuminating for you. But we wouldn't want that.
And if you don't realize you lost again, don't expect me to explain it.
I still don't see eddie answering the question. Too bad. He would have learned something. But antisemites hate having to shake their illusions.
As one would expect an antisemite to score the encounters.
I'm not obsessed about winning, I just happened to have won.
Count the number of questions? Why bother. Eddie has proven unable to answer the important ones.
You're so upset by eddie losing, you're foaming at the mouth. Calm down. Your life is not on the line, and your reputation was lost when you lied about your credentials.
Don't you think eddie sphincter is getting chafed from your lips?
When you could not prove your credentials by answering a simple question (Which anyone slightly familiar with your field of expertise would have no trouble answering, or at least know what they were looking for on line, I mean who rememebrs all of those formulas we learned in reactor design?) it was simple to deduce you lied.
No, you didn't answer the question the best you could, you merely came up with a reason to refuse to answer the question as you cower in the closet.
Sounds simple enough doesn't it?
I would venture to guess that the actual answer to the first question is none. The second question has NK in the answer.
You have no idea if any jewish zionists believe if modern Israel should expand to the borders mentioned in Bamidbar. In fact, you don't know what those borders are.
Where do I believe what are? (I wonder what the wanker is fishing for)
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