This is an intriguing insight into the mind of one of America's foremost Zionist leaders, the Anti-Defamation League's Abe Foxman. These reflections are from a young, Jewish American:
"The other day I was invited to participate in an hour-long discussion with Abraham Foxman from the ADL. The setting was pretty intimate - about 20 students attended - and I must say I was not impressed by the guy who leads one of the most important Jewish and "anti-Hate" organizations in the world.
"Foxman brought up the example of divestment to show that the unique negative attention Israel receives is an indication of anti-Semitism. It wouldn't be anti-Semitic, he argued, if a group calling for divestment listed Israel among many other countries who perpetuate much worse war crimes. Such a list wouldn't be accurate according to him (Israel - commtting war crimes?! Has ve'halila!), but since it didn't single out Israel it wouldn't be anti-Semitic.
"I challenged this view by bringing up the following possibility: What if Students for a Free Tibet came out with a divestment campaign against China? Would singling out China be derived from a hatred for the Chinese people?
"At this point Abe Foxman lost it, cut me off and went on and on about two thousand years of prosecution and anti-Semitism. How dare I compare a recent historical conflict to such deep-seated hatred that goes back so far?! It seems then, that his original argument collapsed: At first he tried to use the "singling out" argument to prove anti-Semitism. Then, he was forced to assume anti-Semitism in order to argue that one case of "singling out" is different than another."
Read the whole thing. Foxman was "hysterical and childish" (sounds like most leading Zionist leaders.) He "played the Holocaust card."
Zionist leaders can no longer ignore the problems with the Israeli state. Smearing all critics as anti-Semites may play well at the American Enterprise Institute, but less and less people simply accept the "might is right" ideology anymore.
Israel is a brutal occupier. Any questions?
"The other day I was invited to participate in an hour-long discussion with Abraham Foxman from the ADL. The setting was pretty intimate - about 20 students attended - and I must say I was not impressed by the guy who leads one of the most important Jewish and "anti-Hate" organizations in the world.
"Foxman brought up the example of divestment to show that the unique negative attention Israel receives is an indication of anti-Semitism. It wouldn't be anti-Semitic, he argued, if a group calling for divestment listed Israel among many other countries who perpetuate much worse war crimes. Such a list wouldn't be accurate according to him (Israel - commtting war crimes?! Has ve'halila!), but since it didn't single out Israel it wouldn't be anti-Semitic.
"I challenged this view by bringing up the following possibility: What if Students for a Free Tibet came out with a divestment campaign against China? Would singling out China be derived from a hatred for the Chinese people?
"At this point Abe Foxman lost it, cut me off and went on and on about two thousand years of prosecution and anti-Semitism. How dare I compare a recent historical conflict to such deep-seated hatred that goes back so far?! It seems then, that his original argument collapsed: At first he tried to use the "singling out" argument to prove anti-Semitism. Then, he was forced to assume anti-Semitism in order to argue that one case of "singling out" is different than another."
Read the whole thing. Foxman was "hysterical and childish" (sounds like most leading Zionist leaders.) He "played the Holocaust card."
Zionist leaders can no longer ignore the problems with the Israeli state. Smearing all critics as anti-Semites may play well at the American Enterprise Institute, but less and less people simply accept the "might is right" ideology anymore.
Israel is a brutal occupier. Any questions?
(Courtesy of Gorilla in the Room)
19 Comments:
We are just smearing you as an antisemite. No reasonable standard bearer of any zionist group "Smear(s)all critics as anti-Semites" But that is one of the many rally cries of a true antisemite such as yourself.
While true criticism of Israeli policy is not ignored, dirt and antony are ignored with impunity.
Addamo considers all fights against antisemitism as racism in disguise.
Just Addamo's antisemitic mind. Very little in there. Very easy to read.
Face it Addamo, you've been pegged.
You are going to die an antisemite. I just can't see the date. That is all that can be seen in your future. Sorry, but it's your own fault.
Perhaps if you had gotten a better education, things would have turned out differently.
No reasonable standard bearer of any Zionist group "smears all critics as anti-Semites."
Ummm... are any Zionist standard-bearers reasonable? Jabotinsky maybe, but then his honesty was honestly racist.
The thing that first got our attention about Zionism was the aggressive mendacity and violent hostility they showed to all potential critics and competitors, flooded mailboxes with death threats and drowning-out debates with screaming. And of course a lot of Zionists confronted directly about this behavior cannot imagine how we have been hallucinating such things, unless of course we're just telling lies about Jews to, as is apparently the goal of the inexplicably frustrated 99% of the world, bring back the Holocaust. There are many comparisons in American politics: Nixonfans dismissed critics as haters, not of Nixon but of America, and distributed a bumper sticker stating "America: love it or leave it." It is unnecessary to point out that certain German extremists explained away insufficient enthusiasm for their big plans as anti-Germanism fostered by immigrant populations.
Yes addamo, your education was a waste of time. I understand many nazis, like yourself, had advance degrees.
And Buckling is inversely proportional to what?
kei and yuri, you haven't made a point. But please try again, you were almost there.
So you have some friends who are smarter than you. Big deal. You shouldn't brag about it. Some people will be upset because you're trying to prove how good you are because of your friends.
As with most of Eddie's theories, this too holds no water.
But I do not deny eddie's antisemitic tendencies.
Actually, addamo and eddie, the tag team idiots of the blogs, are the neo-nazi's best friend.
Foxman deliberately wants to continue re-defining anti-Semitism because it suits his political aims. True anti-Semitism is vile and should be condemned in the strongest possible way. Much of what Foxman calls anti-Semitism, is, er, a little different.
Antisemitism has not been redifined. But the efforts of antisemites, such as yourself, to shift the dialogue slightly, as an attempt to promote antisemitism with out actually being accused of it, has not gone unnoticed.
Your main complaint appears to be being pissed that your are caught so often.
Addamo, you have neither placed evidence nor meaningful quotes in front of anyones eyes. Therefore, there is no need to comment on your antisemitic bent.
The link? Provide the quotes. Until then, you have no argument.
Do you favors? Do an antisemite favors? Please. Take dirt's suggestion to heart. He meant it for you.
All you have provided is someones blog statement. No quotes from Foxman. Try again. Perhaps, like a blind pig, you'll acrtually stumble upon some acorn as you plow through acres of antisemitic shit looking for one.
When Addamo loses the argument (especially when his nose is rubbed in the mess) he resorts to nonsense.
Please provide some accurate quotes for your next argument, not some pretend shit from someone elses blog.
Fraudulent, innacurate? Non-supplied. There were no quotes provided, only the bloggers memory of somthing he thought he heard.
That is not a quote. There was no display to discuss.
What question? A hypothetical? That is not a question.
There is something wrong with sitting back and exposing your antisemitism? Other than the fact that you'd like to keep your antisemitic bent hidden.
It can be proved. But why bother?
Here's a tidbit:
Addamo_01 said...
Tell me ibraham, are those "antisemitic one-sided resolution" printed on different letter-head to the other UN resolutions?
Friday, November 11, 2005 9:28:00 AM
The failure to recognize what even the UN has stated to be one sided and antisemitic resolutions is a clear sign of an antisemitic bent and a clear path toward being labeled an antisemite.
And there is so much more.
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