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Saturday, December 03, 2005

The Jewish state has a lot to learn

Israel resents November 29th being Palestine day:

"I will allow them to express their complaints and demonstrate to the world how stuck they are in the past, with their tedious speeches."

Daniel Gillerman, Israel's UN Ambassador.

Only Jews, apparently, are allowed to refer to the past.

16 Comments:

Blogger orang said...

How can you have Palestine Day if there's no such thing as Palestinians Anthony?

"There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969

Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:37:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

Antony

I am wondering just how much of the rest of your analysis is underpinned by the sloppiness shown here. Where on earth has anybody suggested that "Only Jews, apparently, are allowed to refer to the past."

I'm not really sure I understand what your rhetoric aims to succeed, but from what I have read there is only one wrod for it; tawdry.

I'm sure you have some very legitimate and valid critiques of the current situations in the middle east, but you do yourself no favours with this style of sophomoric trash.

Please lift your game.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 7:59:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

orang

I think somebody needs to tell you that it is no longer 1969. We would all greatly appreciate a similar update of your attitudes and biases.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 8:00:00 pm  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

OMG! I just read the article. This is ANOTHER example of these people misappropriating the history and culture of others.

Surely enough is enough!

Saturday, December 03, 2005 8:30:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

AL enjoys taking occational potshots at those who he regrets having a commonality due to an accident of birth. He seems to feel that he has to show his solidarity with the ultra-lefts antisemitic core.

It would have been nice for orang to have placed the quote in its original context, but that would have defeated his purpose.

It seems to be a typical arab ploy to take a defeat and call it a victory.

Saturday, December 03, 2005 10:38:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Ultra-left antisemitic core Ibraham? Surely that's a stretch. I doubt you would be frequenting this forum if that were the case, for you would be shouted down ferociously.

I don't know if I agree about the misapropriatiin fo the history of others lefty. After all, there is a lot of commonality in the history of Isreael and Palestine.

Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:03:00 am  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

While there is some crossing, the history is rather separate. But the palestinians find it advantageous, as does the ultrea-left, to appropriate the language of their victims.

While there is a great deal of leftest antisemitism on this blog, it is hardly the type associated with Nazis. Only the ultra right wing attempt to silence the opposition by shouting. The ultra left attempt to trick you into silence.

Sunday, December 04, 2005 4:53:00 am  
Blogger orang said...

Yeah, well you guys should get some new catchphrases and get used to your (not so new) reputation as supporters of the neighbourhood bully. This "anti-semitic" shit you throw at any critics is so old it doesn't smell anymore. People just laugh at you.

Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:21:00 am  
Blogger evan jones said...

If there is no such thing as Palestine, there is no such thing as Israel, as the latter is sitting slap bang on the former.
And what sort of authority does Golda Meir hold except for the party faithful? Merely one of the long line of ethnic cleansers to entrench the apartheid state that is Israel.
Who is victimising who? The destruction of meaning by your typical Zionist fellow traveller makes Goebbels' propaganda machine look like amateur hour.
What is the moral difference between the Israeli regime and the Sudanese junta? None – the only difference is that the West supports the former and decries the latter.

Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:19:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Can we call Evans Jones someone with an obvious antisemitic bent without getting laughed at?

Or is it better to state that Evans is merely an idiot pontificating out of ignorance?

Sunday, December 04, 2005 1:26:00 pm  
Blogger Glenn Condell said...

A pig of a statement from a pig of a man. Gillerman's almost as bad as Bolton.

But not as bad as ibrahamav, who I see has neoleftychick, another heroic anonymouse Zionist, to join he and shabby on the payroll.

She's loud enough and biased enough to go straight into the front rank of trolls.

Sunday, December 04, 2005 4:03:00 pm  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

So glad to see glenn join ranks with evans. No need to discuss anything with an idiot like that.

Write Zundel a fan letter yet?

Monday, December 05, 2005 1:12:00 am  
Blogger Wombat said...

What's your obesession with Zundel Ibraham? For someone who professes to be a champion of free speech, you seem to revel in the demise of someone who got locked up trying to excercise it.

AFAIK, Zundel is yet to be tried.

Monday, December 05, 2005 3:15:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

evan jones

Sweetie, you really need a Logic 101 class. Get out an atlas or the CIA factbook or the UN and take a look. There IS an Israel. It has a parliament, a Supreme Court, a currency, a defence force, and on and on.

There is no such thing as Palestine. There was once, but it has since been divided into Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Israel.

I hope this helps.

Monday, December 05, 2005 7:43:00 pm  
Blogger Wombat said...

Correction lefty, Palestine continues to be divided.

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:38:00 am  
Blogger neoleftychick said...

addamo

Do you expect Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Israel to merge into state soon?

Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:12:00 pm  

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