There is a partner for peace, writes Akiva Eldar in Haaretz:
"A few days after Rabin's assassination, Shimon Peres invited the leaders of Meretz to discuss the guidelines of the government. The representatives of the left-wing party wanted the document being drafted to express support for the Palestinians' right to self-determination. None of them expected that, more than two years after the agreement regarding mutual recognition between the State of Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, the architect of Oslo would have a problem making such a declaration. To their great surprise, Peres gave them a look full of reprimand. "Do you understand that this means a Palestinian state?" he asked. "Absolutely," replied the guests in unison. "And who told you that I'm in favour of a Palestinian state?" replied the prime minister offhandedly. "I believe in functional compromise."
"Ten years after Rabin's assassination, we have an Israeli political leader [new Labor chairman Amir Peretz] who considers the occupation a moral, security and economic burden, a man who is in no need of internal or external pressure to leave the territories. Finally, peace has emerged from the back benches and returned to centre stage.
"Palestinian neighbours: You have a partner, don't let the fanatics harm him."
There has always been a partner in the Palestinians but the Zionists and Western media have convinced the public otherwise. Not anymore. People no longer believe Israel when it talks about a marauding Palestinian rabble. The Palestinian people have finally acquired a humanity that cannot be ignored. Israel, on the other hand, continues its immoral occupation.
Gaza, meanwhile, is in danger of becoming a "giant prison", according to James Wolfensohn, the West's special envoy on post-disengagement Gaza. Israel's main benefactor, the USA, continues its disastrous occupation of Iraq. It's the blind clique leading the morally bankrupt. And Australia stands ready throughout it all to offer guidance and support. Brave, little, irrelevant Australia.
The myths are ending and Israel stands accused in the dock.
"A few days after Rabin's assassination, Shimon Peres invited the leaders of Meretz to discuss the guidelines of the government. The representatives of the left-wing party wanted the document being drafted to express support for the Palestinians' right to self-determination. None of them expected that, more than two years after the agreement regarding mutual recognition between the State of Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization, the architect of Oslo would have a problem making such a declaration. To their great surprise, Peres gave them a look full of reprimand. "Do you understand that this means a Palestinian state?" he asked. "Absolutely," replied the guests in unison. "And who told you that I'm in favour of a Palestinian state?" replied the prime minister offhandedly. "I believe in functional compromise."
"Ten years after Rabin's assassination, we have an Israeli political leader [new Labor chairman Amir Peretz] who considers the occupation a moral, security and economic burden, a man who is in no need of internal or external pressure to leave the territories. Finally, peace has emerged from the back benches and returned to centre stage.
"Palestinian neighbours: You have a partner, don't let the fanatics harm him."
There has always been a partner in the Palestinians but the Zionists and Western media have convinced the public otherwise. Not anymore. People no longer believe Israel when it talks about a marauding Palestinian rabble. The Palestinian people have finally acquired a humanity that cannot be ignored. Israel, on the other hand, continues its immoral occupation.
Gaza, meanwhile, is in danger of becoming a "giant prison", according to James Wolfensohn, the West's special envoy on post-disengagement Gaza. Israel's main benefactor, the USA, continues its disastrous occupation of Iraq. It's the blind clique leading the morally bankrupt. And Australia stands ready throughout it all to offer guidance and support. Brave, little, irrelevant Australia.
The myths are ending and Israel stands accused in the dock.
23 Comments:
There has never been a partner on the Palestinian side. All of western civilization recognizes that.
No, I can't. Most of the Islamic world, mostly what would loosely be termed civilization, would have trouble recognizing it's own ass.
But they would have no trouble recognizing yours.
"The Palestinian people have finally acquired a humanity"
And what day was that on? Last Thursday?
Eddie, do you actually think I'm concerned with heidelberg? A fool who thinks there is a difference between antizionism and antisemitism?
If he is Jewish, he is not Jewish in a religious sense. And, of course, he is 'compelled'.
Just another zealot trying to show his worth.
Oh, good one heidi, I didn't see it coming.
Deliberately? Nothing confusing about it. Of course, since your educational credentials vanished, perhaps you are confused.
No addamo, you do not see. All Jews, who identify themselves religiously as Jews, are Zionists.
As there are only 13 to 16 million Jews on earth, and over 100 million zionists, no one in their right mind would even suggest that all zionists are jews.
Precisely why you can suggest such.
Go to school. Learn something. Anything. Your bufoonery is too much. LMAO.
Addamo - So limited. Are you sure you graduated from elementary school.
Eddie - Almost as limited as Addamo. The earliest zionists had the return to zion as thier goal. The 19th century zionist, pre-Herzl. had the return to zion as their goal.
In the formation of a Formal Zionist society, as in any other democracy, alternatives were offered and weighed. All were found wanting except the return to zion.
And despite initial resistance, perservenrance and adherance to truth overcame all and Israel has been re-established.
Eddie, you may now delve back in your ass and attempt to retrieve another piece of shit.
But you can't prove you did. And based on your comments, you're probably lying about your elementary education also.
Why have a definitive meaning? Or why, as you have demonstrated, have a screwed up meaning that defines your terms rather than zionism?
Hostility? Making fun of lames like you two is hostility?
I haven't avoided a definitive meaning. Your meaning has very little to do with the definition of zionism.
So, you were attempting to be fraudulent? Misleading? And now you've been caught. And you even supplied the evidence!
There is only one meaning. You didn't bring it to the table. You brought a small portion of one manifistation.
Zionism is the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel, advocated, from its inception, tangible as well as spiritual aims.
While the word "Zionism", like the word "antisemitism", was not coined until the 1800's, conceptional zionism has been a concrete goal since the 1st exile.
All Jews, who identify themselves, religiously, as Jews, are united in the goals of Zionism. Even the NK's. They have arguments, but they are not compelling. An argument that sways less than 1/10 of a percent is not a compelling argument.
Heidi, Heidi, Heidi - Why so hot under the collar? Every single living breathing Jew, who identifies themselves, religiously, as Jews, is a Zionist.
That you believe otherwise doesn't make you a liar, it just means you have a belief based on ignorance.
And it is your ignorance that makes you dangerous, and allows your apinion to be dumped in the trash.
Do yourself a favor> Get an education. Learn about what you hope to talk about. Do it for you.
I could care less, it just makes it easier to ignore your opinion when it is obviously uneducated.
Myself, I demand nothing.
You couldn't because you have severe limitations. The Rabbis involved in any particular anti-zionist activity have all been chastised by their superiors. Whether or not they obey halaka is up to them.
And the NK are pretty much ignored as you are.
There are many who were accidentally born to jewish parents who think they have an opinion on the matter that matters. But they don't.
Their sole connection with judaism, like yours, is to oppose it. You are not the first self-hating Jew. You will not be the last.
You keep getting it wrong, no wonder you can't see how deep it is.
All Jews, who identify themselves religiously as Jews, are Zionists.
As Usual, I am right. I'll repeat it since it gotten through your thick head. All Jews, who identify themselves religiously as Jews, are Zionists.
And you haven't done a thing to prove it isn't so. Just deny, deny, deny, as most antisemites who claim some of their best friends are Jewish.
What is your definition of Torah?
Forunately eddie is so ignorant that he doesn't understand the question. please, eddie, let heidi answer the question and then I will be more than happy to refute his claim.
You have already admitted your antisemitic bent so there is truly no need to address this matter with you. Most Jews refer to the entirety of Judaic knowledge as "Torah". If Heidi is merely refering to what is commonly known as "The Five Book od Moses" as Torah, let him say it in his own words and time.
And the Rabbis associated with his list have been adequately chastised for their failings. If they choose to ignore God, it is not up to the rest of the Jews to force them to obey. That would be an Islamic thing to do. And we are not muslims.
Cowardly? Strange coming from you. But seeing your agenda, baiting is not beneath you.
And are you (not heidi who I assume must have dropped out when he realized that he was out of his league) asking for a bit of torah stating God's command to inhabit the land? Or are you asking for a statement regarding returning to the land after the first exile, which took place hundreds of years after the 5 book were written?
It is clear that Addamo does not.
fairly soon you will have realized the implication of what you wrote and will attempt to erase it.
So that all will know what an diot we have to deal with in addamo, allow me to copy and paste it before Addamo erases it.
Addamo_01 said...
Hey Eddie, hear that? Ibraham talks to God too.
Thursday, November 17, 2005 5:11:50 AM
Pass judgement? God passes the kind of justice you refer to. You fault Bush because he talks to God?
You are so sick you can't even recognize your sickness.
8 comments ago addamo, you are truly a dinosaur. Come back next week when you think of something.
Poor addamo, now he's talking to himself. How sad :(
eddie, you seem to have left off the context and merely skimmed the post.
With your other limitations that makes your answers rather meaningless.
Try to read it again. Get help if you have trouble with the big words.
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